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    #16
    Ben you show some beautiful crosses. Is there anything on the upper left cross that indicates a particular maker? Does the core or the frame match any marked examples you've seen?

    Thanks for any help.



    Also: are upper-right and lower-left identical (obverse)?
    Best regards,
    Streptile

    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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      #17
      Hi Trevor,

      no, nothing that indicates a particular maker.
      It's from the same maker as Jim's cross that was the thread-starter.
      Somehow I have a feeling that Deschler made these crosses, based on the date and on the wideness of the frame mainly.
      But I can't prove it....

      This is a one-piece as well, never seen a marked cross that matches this cross in any way.
      That means nothing though, the maker of the one-piece schinkels is still unknown to.

      The 2 crosses you mean have the same core, but the frame is different.
      Also the difference in weight is 4 gramm

      Originally posted by streptile View Post
      Ben you show some beautiful crosses. Is there anything on the upper left cross that indicates a particular maker? Does the core or the frame match any marked examples you've seen?

      Thanks for any help.



      Also: are upper-right and lower-left identical (obverse)?

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        #18
        Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
        Hi Trevor,

        no, nothing that indicates a particular maker.
        It's from the same maker as Jim's cross that was the thread-starter.
        Somehow I have a feeling that Deschler made these crosses, based on the date and on the wideness of the frame mainly.
        But I can't prove it....

        This is a one-piece as well, never seen a marked cross that matches this cross in any way.
        That means nothing though, the maker of the one-piece schinkels is still unknown to.

        The 2 crosses you mean have the same core, but the frame is different.
        Also the difference in weight is 4 gramm
        Yes, I thought it looked the same as Jim's. Hard to tell it's a one-piece from your photos... very interesting cross.

        What do you think about Schickle as the maker of the one-piece Schinkels?

        http://70.87.163.50/forums/showthrea...light=schickle

        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=397432
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #19
          Originally posted by streptile View Post
          Yes, I thought it looked the same as Jim's. Hard to tell it's a one-piece from your photos... very interesting cross.

          What do you think about Schickle as the maker of the one-piece Schinkels?

          http://70.87.163.50/forums/showthrea...light=schickle

          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=397432

          It is from the same maker, just like the PB I posted.
          You see them pop up from time to time, but they are scarce.

          Well, I don't have a clue, frankly, but you can't find a maker by the hardware alone.
          So it can be Schickle but in fact it can be any maker.
          Since Schinkels , as well as the crosses shown in this thread, are pre-LdO there's no way to tell if they were made by a company that we know as ek-makers.
          Maybe they didn't get a license for ek's, which means they are not on the list......
          Last edited by ben bijker; 01-04-2010, 11:00 AM.

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            #20
            Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
            Since Schinkels , as well as the crosses shown in this thread, are pre-LdO there's no way to tell if they were made by a company that we know of as ek-makers.
            Maybe they didn't get a license for ek's, which means they are not on the list......
            Very interesting. For some reason I never thought of that possibility.
            Best regards,
            Streptile

            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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              #21
              You're not alone Trevor, but it's not unlikely.

              Since this thread is mainly about 1-piece crosses, here my latest Schinkel.
              1-piece cross with a 1 piece disc, very unusual.
              I don't know if it's a replacement disc for the regular disc and nut, but I like it
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                #22
                reverse
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                  #23
                  disc, other side
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                    #24
                    Ek

                    I am back home. The vitals of the cross:

                    Weight: 23g (with everything)
                    Height: 44.89 mm
                    Width: 44.73 mm
                    Post on back: 2.94 mm
                    Screw: 2.52

                    Cross has a nice vault to it (factory I think). It looks like the cross was completely painted black (there is black paint on the edges) prior to polishing. It is non-magnetic. Jim
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