Brass Core EK1 can someone help?

[JustinG]

Greetings, I am curious about the pricing for a brass core EK1. I know that these were very popular among the naval units as the core held up to the sea.
Were there specific manufacturers that made these or was it pretty much everyone?

Are these crosses around what the typical cross pricing would be or do these variants demand a higher pricetag in you opinion?

Regards,
JustinG

[WEISNER]

Price depends on the cross condition and maker, as for the Naval angle! Pure fantasy! Brass core crosses were not made for Naval use and were issued through out the services untill outlawed.
Yes brass core EK's are rarer and command a slightly higher price.
Kevin

[JustinG]

So the brass cores were actually some officially issued and not just a cross that a recipient would privately purchase? Am I understanding this correctly?
They became outlawed... Could you share your source?

Thanks and regards,
JustinG

[Bond]

I've got a denazied brass core EK1, with no makers mark, whick I paid £25 for, a few years back. I expect it being denazified has reduced its value somewhat, so this is probably not much help. Though if anyone knows what mine would be worth and can post its value, I would be grateful?

JerryBB

[Robert P.]

Justin,

I'm not certain of the date, but as Kevin was saying there came regulations restricting the use of anything but iron for the cores of EK's. Up until this time cores of brass, tombak and zinc were widely used by many cross makers. I wish I could be of more help with this date, but perhaps someone will help out with this.

Edit: This link may help in the dating of the iron core:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...ufacturing.htm

[WEISNER]

Thanks Robert! This link is good info and the info regarding cores can be read. I like alternate material cored EK's and am willing to pay a bit extra for such.
Kev

[Robert P.]

Thanks Robert! This link is good info. I like alternate material cored EK's and am willing to pay a bit extra for such.
Kev

I like them as well Kevin,

Here is a nickel silver-plated iron-cored '123' EKII I own...

[Robert P.]

My brass-cored '39 EK's consist of:

1. Souval EKI,
2. W&L, early,
3. S&L, early,
4. Deumer Schinkel EKII, early of course,
5. 'L/19' EKI

It's interesting that the 'L/19' is brass-cored. I've seen some 'L/19's with iron cores, so there must have been a transition period.

And, I have some Juncker zinc-cored '39 EKII's.

[JustinG]

Wow, Thanks for the good information guys.
I appreciate it.

Regards,
JustinG

[WEISNER]

Great 123 Robert! I like the look of that cross alot! I have only one Brass core, an L/19 and a copper plated iron core L/11.
I bought the slightly vaulted Deumer thinking it a brass core, Man was I surprised when the magnet stuck to it! LOL! I used the search function here on the forum and learned it was a copper plated Iron core!
So Justin... do Your homework when buying an alternate core EK!
Best regards!
Kev

[WEISNER]

Here is the early maker mark, unboxed L/11.
Kev

[WEISNER]

And here is the reverse, a well worn cross... if You look You can see the copper content of the frame in the beading in the first photo, and the pin and hinge assembly where the finish has worn off here!
Kev

[Steve Campbell]

Yes, it's not hard to get confused with these. Here are two early Deumers I have that clearly show a different type of material under the black paint. In this case these are copper plated iron. The cores are magnetic.

[Rolf Steiner]

ZWK EKI Iron Core Marked 800

Gentlemen:
First time for me here and I've learned things from the conversations already. Looking at my collection, I've got a cross which is magnetic and is marked 800
(80% Sterling Silver) on the reverse below the pin catch . No other markings. Could this originally be a private purchase or perhaps a jeweler manufacturer who produced WW1 crosses??

Thank you for any info you might have.

Rolf

[WEISNER]

Impossible to say without photos Rolf! Lets see the cross? Are You saying it is TR era? You mentioned private purchase?
Steve, That is a real nice pair!
Best Regards!
Kev