denazified KC

[FrankS]

very nice RK!!! regardless of removed swastika.

Extremely nice worn RK ribbon.

I like those worn ribbons a lot. I would always prefer a RK with nice worn ribbon over a cased RK.

[DaveNZ]

Very nice cross and grouping

if only such an RK would come my way

[Darrell]

Nice grouping.... he had 2 KC'S? The '65' cant be the one on the picture... see the round ish corners

That's what I noticed. Oh well ...

[mdj]

the ribbon is sewn together and the loop is clearly "surrounded" / folded around to this ribbon....You don't see this quite often.

Martin

[JG 51]

Great photos, thanks for sharing

[Wijtman01]

realy nice martin, were did you aquire this lovely grouping

cheers

[Dietrich Maerz]

Extremely nice!

And I (honestly) do wonder why it is that such 100% perfect groups always fit the theory with the three dots and some "other" groups have K&Q with dots all over the time-place - even in 1943 ... strange that is Master Luke!

[Brian S]

...why didn't he just turn the swas to the rear...

[Darrell]

the ribbon is sewn together and the loop is clearly "surrounded" / folded around to this ribbon....You don't see this quite often.

Martin

It maybe the same ribbon, but it's not a K&Q cross.

[mdj]

It maybe the same ribbon, but it's not a K&Q cross.

sure Darrell.....

The uniform with name tag of Schlueter, the same ribbon on the picture but a different KC....so why changed? Schlueter got his KC august 1944 so that fits the timeline (dots). This group was delivered by the family of Schlueter.

its all in the pictures....

when viewing at large distance you almost can't see "roundings". When looking at close distance, you see them strongly because of fading.

Martin

[Darrell]

Martin,

You're the one saying it's the same ribbon, not me.

Sharp corners? The whole shape of the cross is not K&Q!

My god ... I thought I was the one needing glasses.

Well ... if you see a K&Q in that picture, fine, enjoy.

[IDInv]

Martin,

You're the one saying it's the same ribbon, not me.

Sharp corners? The whole shape of the cross is not K&Q!

My god ... I thought I was the one needing glasses.

Well ... if you see a K&Q in that picture, fine, enjoy.

I thnik that Darell has hit the point......that which goes against dealers, authors and all whom make profit from the hobby! The lie!!

The Cross shown surely isn't a K&Q and (no) angle up down or otherwise will help depict it as such!

Clearly, NOT a K&Q frame!

[Dietrich Maerz]

Darrel is right IMHO. I should have looked at the picture which clearly does not show a K&Q!

[mdj]

what else (maker) can be seen then in comparison of K&Q features??

A named uniform, the same ribbon, but a different and denazified cross....I am very curious for the reasons why some one changed the cross but not the ribbon....

Martin

[eindecker2]

Who did he surrender to? Americans, British, Russians? There is certainly the chance that it was liberated from him - or he kept his original in the drawer and then had this K&Q denazified. There were plenty floating around after the war. It always amazes me how folks dont put into factor as time passes, things happen to things.
The point of the collecting is if you are certain it is from the family - then its from the family - why would it not be? I would certanily enjoy this grouping.