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    I was wondering what the relative numbers of each individual manufacturer of the DKiG. I would assume that Zimmerman is the most common and S&L the least. What about the other manufacturers? Anyone care to rank from most common to least for this award? I assume there is no data, but would be based upon the experience of collectors coming across the respective pieces. Thanks

    #2
    You're right about Zimmermanns and S&Ls.
    I don't have any scientific data about the others, but I know that I see Deschlers and Junckers offered for sale fairly regularly and about equally, and Kleins maybe a bit less so, and Godets slightly less than Kleins.
    ( Like I said, not very scientific, but just my informal observations. )
    George

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      #3
      ...The rarest DK in gold is the one with diamonds from Rath Munich. Believed 20 pieces made but probably a few more.

      Than followed by Meybauer of Berlin, the Deschler 10 rivet construction.

      A wartime S&L is not seen every day but not that rare either.

      Pieter.
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        #4
        ...so to my opinion...

        -German Cross in gold with diamonds by Rath Munich
        -Deschler 10 rivets
        -Meybauer
        -Godet Berlin
        -Deschler 6 rivets small pin
        -Steinhauer & luck
        -C.E. Juncker
        -Deschler 6 rivets long pin
        -Zimmermann heavy construction
        -Deschler 4 rivets
        -Klein
        -Zimmermann light version

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          #5
          Hello,

          a few years ago there was an article in a german military magazine ( I don´t know the name, I only saw a copy of this site ) about DKs and their manufactures, and there was a picture of a Meybauer DKiG marked "7". I am not sure that Meybauer was a DK manufacture, I never had one in my hands. I agree with George, Godets are the rarest. Maybe we can start a statistic ?
          greetings
          Mathias

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            #6
            Has anyone actually seen a Meybauer? It seems as though from the information on the DKiG on this site, that the author had actually never had one in his hands. So from the responses, among the known manufacturers with crosses available in the market today, and with the exception of the cross with diamonds, that the Deschler 10 rivet and the Godet are the least common? Thanks

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              #7
              Originally posted by tom hansen
              Has anyone actually seen a Meybauer? It seems as though from the information on the DKiG on this site, that the author had actually never had one in his hands. So from the responses, among the known manufacturers with crosses available in the market today, and with the exception of the cross with diamonds, that the Deschler 10 rivet and the Godet are the least common? Thanks
              I've had a few of them but all in worn-out condition.They really exists!
              Pieter.
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                #8
                Originally posted by tom hansen
                I would assume that Zimmerman is the most common
                I can go with that for the "light" ones but the "heavy" "20" are less easy to find than regular DK.
                Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pieter Verbruggen
                  I've had a few of them but all in worn-out condition.They really exists!
                  Pieter.
                  Hello Pieter,

                  any picture of a Meybauer DK ?

                  Mathias

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by M. Zimmer
                    Hello Pieter,

                    any picture of a Meybauer DK ?

                    Mathias
                    Sorry no pictures.
                    Pieter.
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                      #11
                      The remark by Mathias made me look thru my archives. Should have done it earlier since the same archive also shows the Rounder RK as a legitimate cross.


                      Here's the picture of the Meybauer DK. It says it's a very rare variant and the obverse is exactly as the ones from Deschler. The reverse shows differences. The manufacturing of DK's by Meybauer was forbidden by the Präsisialkanzlei on 24th May 1942 via letter since all orders had been placed, mainly to Zimmermann and Deschler.

                      The article also mentones that these pieces are sometimes mixed up with S&L, however the rivets are different (ball type, not hollow).

                      Interesting!

                      Dietrich
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                        #12
                        When was that article published?
                        George

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by George Stimson
                          When was that article published?
                          Don't know for sure but around 1995.

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                            #14
                            Thank you.
                            George

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                              #15
                              Hi!

                              This article was published in "Internationales Militaria-Magazin" No. 75 (IMM, Nov.93-Jan.94), S. 42
                              They wrote, that his award-pics and description came from the "Phaleristische Forschungsstelle, Prof. Willibald Tettinek"

                              Hope that´ll help.

                              Cheers

                              Gerd

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