Opinions on Spange pls

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Have researched some but can't conclusively know about authenticity. Opinions please.

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[Robert P.]

This looks like a match. Good? I don't know. Let's see what others have to say about it...

[Robert P.]

rev

[tinmantis]

all floch fakes aren't they?
regards
jon

[cobra-2001]

ek

looks like a L/13

[Robert P.]

The one to the left is definately a floch...

[tinmantis]

good comparison pic
but I still think they're Flochs, slightly different angles/lighting/reworking etc
a few of these non-viened examples have cropped up lately. I think they've been re-worked with more believeable hardware. JMHO
regards
jon

[Wik]

I'm not anywhere near Robert's or Jon's level of knowledge but it looks to me like

I know different makers have different characteristics but some of the detail looks off compared to my Spange and others I have seen posted.

I am by no means the official word on the issue though. I would see what the heavy-weights decide!




Ryan

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I just reviewed the Floch article at the top of this section and did not see one with a hinge or pin assembly that matched the one that I posted. What I find interesting is the weight of this Spange is 8.7 grams which is exactly the same as an original Mayer that I have. Does this matter?

[Robert P.]

good comparison pic
but I still think they're Flochs, slightly different angles/lighting/reworking etc
a few of these non-viened examples have cropped up lately. I think they've been re-worked with more believeable hardware. JMHO
regards
jon

jon,

I confess I don't know the complete line of original 1st class spanges well enough to say whether it's original or not, but I believe it and the Floch are from entirely different dies. When looking at the wreath around the talon area there is just too much difference between both to think a die has been reworked. It may be another Floch creation, I am not sure. There are similarities. Surely someone must recognize this spange. And, it doesn't look like an 'L/13' spange, far from it.

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[tinmantis]

ok, well I've never seen an L/11 without viens, or those shoulders
any chance of super good pics? to put this one to bed?
regards
jon

[tinmantis]

super close pics of the datebox would be a good start...
maybe this IS an L/11 variant
regards
jon