your KC

[CANALE]

hello!
CAN YOU SEND ME SOME PICTURES
FROM YOUR KC ?
I HAVE ONE KC FROM K&Q IN MY COLLECTION THIS KC COME DIRECTLY FROM THE WINNER.

[CSP]

Below are some pictures of my K&Q KC. Hope these help.
Scott













http://images.andale.com/f2/117/113/...5scott7rev.jpg

[Bill W.]

WOW!!!

Scott thats great. Man, does it have the I've been there look. Is that a Iron Cross ribbon?

[CSP]

Bill:
Yes, whomever was awarded it chose this method of attachment. Not uncommon to use an EK II ribbon. This guy obviously was intent on this technique. I have a few leads as to who may have owned this piece...most likely culpret is von Sponeck, but provenance is not enough to say for sure. Thanks, it is a neat piece.

Scott

[CANALE]

HELLO SCOTT !!

I JUST RECEIVED YOUR NICES PICTURES.
WHAT MARVELLOUS KC YOU HAVE!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE NO QUESTIONS IN MY MIND.
ALL ARE PERFECT. ALL KC FROM K&Q (ORIGINAL ONE OF COURSE )ARE EXACTLY THE SAME THAT YOUR ,MINE OR LIKE THE SAMPLE IN THE WEBSITE.
YOUR RIBBON ARE SO FANTASTIC.
IF YOU ARE INTERESTED TO CONTACT ME I SEND YOU ME E-MAIL ADRESS AND I CAN SEND YOU SOME PICTURE FROM MY KC THIS ONE COME A PILOTE WHO STILL ALIVE AND I HAVE ALL HIS STUFF WITH DOCUMENT AWARDS AND PHOTO ALBUM.
I AM FRENCH AND I LIVE IN PARIS.
WHAT DO YOU COLLECTED?
DISTRACO@WANADOO.FR

[Michel]

Bonsoir Alain,

Si tu me montres la tienne, je te montre la mienne... mais ce n'est pas une 65.

Blague mise à part, je serai heureux que tu m'envoies des photos de ta RK.

A bientôt,

Michel

[Bill W.]

.v Sponek?

I wonder if your "culprit" could be possible! He got his Cross in Sept. 41. Is this a little early for a K&Q. This is what is bugging me as I recall Andy suggesting that K&Q made their appearance in '44. Just curious and not at all suggesting anything else...only if you would like to give it to me I could continue the research!

[Luftm40]

Hi, actually I think KQ crosses TEND to be later war pieces from my experience, but there are ones awarded earlier as well. I don't think you can say "...from 1944 onward" though

[CSP]

I really have no basis beyond a wild guess on von Sponek - and it is a weak guess only, based on some scant information when I purchased it 20 years ago. If K&Q's are late war, would not make sense then. No big deal as there is zero chance of ever knowing who was awarded this one.
Thanks
Scott

[Bill W.]

Andy and Scott...I wonder if there is anyone out there who will suggest a "start" date for K&Q crosses to hit the award supply. I guess it was after the "L" was dropped and all went to #'S. But, I'm getting out of my league.

[Gordon Williamson]

I think the K&Qs were around from the very beginning,but the 65 marked pieces are late.

I know of a number of KCs in a private collection, still in the card storage box, with an LDO seal (broken now of course) stating that they are imperfect and not to be sold. The crosses all have a fault in the eye for the suspension loop, but get this, are marked L/26 for K&Q. These are the only real LDO marked K&Qs I have ever known about, but must have been pre-41.

Gordon

[CSP]

Gordon:
Interesting piece of information. Thanks. Was the L/26 marked under the reverse loop as the 800 is on (what we seem to be saying are) the later war crosses? or did K&Q always mark their suspension loops with their number?

[Bill W.]

post deleted!! I wonerer why?

Hello and please don't bar me but, I'm wondering why my post in retort to Mr. Williamson's post regarding K&Q "seconds" was removed. My question then and now is HOW could several completed crosses that were sub-standard be packaged up, including box, ribbon and outer carton end up in a collection with the admonishment "do not sell" or something to that effect !
Seba what's going on here. My thought was why finish them rather than just throw them in the junk pile and THEN why pack them up.....
Bill W.

[Sebastian Bianchi]

huh? Deleted? Um, I don't know. We had some data loss when we moved over to the new server on 3-16, and I made an announcement about it,

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...php?forumid=21

That's most likely where it went. Sorry for the inconvenience, please re-post.

Seba

[Bill W.]

Oh yes..thanks! I forgot about that. No problem here.
Bill