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    #1

    EKII Prinzen Spanges

    Can anyone ID these two Prinzen spanges for me? It has four pins on the back vice two. Thanks Jim
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    Prinzen

    Second one. This one has two pins on back.
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      Last edited by ben bijker; 04-24-2009, 12:26 PM.

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        #4
        it's nice to be wanted!

        sadly both of these are of unknown makers, but both are 100% authentic
        I actually call these styles 'unknown1' and 'unknown2' if that's any help
        regards
        jon

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          #5
          ooops
          I'm wrong
          the second one isn't a true prinzen. It's the '2prong' die, of L/15. (which is slightly different to the 'normal' L/15) I presume for the medal bar...
          regards
          jon

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            #6
            Very nice Spangs Jim! You sure blow me away finding all the nice Ek's and associated items like you do! You make it look easy! I know it is not!
            Can You post the reverse photos of each Spang for education reasons Jim?

            Jon, so the unknown 1 maker left the flash on the eagle under the beak and over the shoulders then? Is this a heads up for id on Unknown 1?
            Thanks for your reply! I am trying to learn as much as possible before buying my first Spang.
            Great job Jim! I like the look of the wear (Rubbing) on the first Spang, For sure displayed on a uniform during the war....
            Kevin

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              Spange

              Thank you for your comments.

              Jon, why is one not a true Prinzen? I have measured them and they are:

              4 prong - 23mm X 24mm
              2 prong - 25mm X 25mm

              Here are the pictures as requested.

              Jim
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                Ek

                Spange 4 prong
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                  Thanks for posting the reverse Jim! Very nice....
                  Kevin

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                    #10
                    Thanks for the measurements Jim, that clears up another little mystery
                    These 'possibly L/15' prinzens are almost totally identical to the normal sized L/15 marked ones
                    (I say 'possibly' as I've found no actual hard proof, and none are marked)
                    and viewing pics without handling/measuring they look one and the same
                    (sadly I don't own a prinzen 'L/15' )
                    I'd previously thought L/15 had 2 dies for their standard EK2 spangen, 4 + 2 prong.
                    The 2 prong are the prinzens
                    and reviewing all my L/15 files, there are also other minute differences I've realised. So from now on I can tell the differnce between L/15 prinzens and standards without measurements, thanks!

                    and yes Kevin, I havn't seen another 'unknown maker prinzen' without the flashing, and they are pretty rare
                    regards
                    jon

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                      Spange

                      Jon,

                      I have two regular L15 (neither marked), one with four prongs and one with two prongs. I had posted them last year http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=319417. Jim

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                        Jim that's great, I thought I was losing my mind for a minute
                        so yes, there ARE 2 standard L/15 dies
                        and 1 prinzen 'L/15' die

                        you're a lucky guy to own all 3!
                        regards
                        jon

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                          Last edited by ben bijker; 04-24-2009, 12:26 PM.

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                            Ben

                            Yes all of my Prinzen have the narrow ribbon. Jim

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