Can anyone ID these two Prinzen spanges for me? It has four pins on the back vice two. Thanks Jim
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Second one. This one has two pins on back. -
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it's nice to be wanted!
sadly both of these are of unknown makers, but both are 100% authentic
I actually call these styles 'unknown1' and 'unknown2' if that's any help
regards
jonComment
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ooops
I'm wrong
the second one isn't a true prinzen. It's the '2prong' die, of L/15. (which is slightly different to the 'normal' L/15) I presume for the medal bar...
regards
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Very nice Spangs Jim! You sure blow me away finding all the nice Ek's and associated items like you do! You make it look easy! I know it is not!
Can You post the reverse photos of each Spang for education reasons Jim?
Jon, so the unknown 1 maker left the flash on the eagle under the beak and over the shoulders then? Is this a heads up for id on Unknown 1?
Thanks for your reply! I am trying to learn as much as possible before buying my first Spang.
Great job Jim! I like the look of the wear (Rubbing) on the first Spang, For sure displayed on a uniform during the war....
KevinComment
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Thank you for your comments.
Jon, why is one not a true Prinzen? I have measured them and they are:
4 prong - 23mm X 24mm
2 prong - 25mm X 25mm
Here are the pictures as requested.
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Thanks for posting the reverse Jim! Very nice....
KevinComment
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Thanks for the measurements Jim, that clears up another little mystery
These 'possibly L/15' prinzens are almost totally identical to the normal sized L/15 marked ones
(I say 'possibly' as I've found no actual hard proof, and none are marked)
and viewing pics without handling/measuring they look one and the same
(sadly I don't own a prinzen 'L/15')
I'd previously thought L/15 had 2 dies for their standard EK2 spangen, 4 + 2 prong.
The 2 prong are the prinzens
and reviewing all my L/15 files, there are also other minute differences I've realised. So from now on I can tell the differnce between L/15 prinzens and standards without measurements, thanks!
and yes Kevin, I havn't seen another 'unknown maker prinzen' without the flashing, and they are pretty rare
regards
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Jon,
I have two regular L15 (neither marked), one with four prongs and one with two prongs. I had posted them last year http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=319417. JimComment
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Jim that's great, I thought I was losing my mind for a minute
so yes, there ARE 2 standard L/15 dies
and 1 prinzen 'L/15' die
you're a lucky guy to own all 3!
regards
jonComment
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Ben
Yes all of my Prinzen have the narrow ribbon. JimComment
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