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    what firms used brass and tombak plated iron for the center of the Iron Cross First Class. also what firm or firms produced the solid brass ek1.thanks

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    Welcome to the forum Mr. Happy,

    Those are some big questions, and not sure that any one person could answer both fully. There were brass-cored EK's, copper-plated iron cores, zinc cores, iron cores, tombak cores, etc., etc.. It's going to take you awhile to gather all of this information. Get a couple of spiral wound notepads and make some extra room in your computer hardrive, maybe even an external hardrive. There's a lot to learn, and a lot to forget while you're learning.

    To get started, before regulations came out for the EK makers to make only iron-cored EK's, there were many makers using brass, tombak and zinc for their cores. Some even used neusilber as a coating over the iron, as they did copper also. I have a '123' Beck, Hassinger & Co. with this neusilber layer over the iron core. I have a couple Juncker crosses with zinc cores, S&L's (Steinhauer & Luck) and W&L's (Wachtler & Lange) with brass cores, also an 'L/19' Ferd. Hoffstadter with a brass core. The list goes on and on.

    Robert

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      #3
      could you post pictures.thanks for the quick reply

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        #4
        First up, 'Mr. Happy' is my '123' with it's neusilber coating over the iron core...

        Robert
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          #5
          At the moment I know:

          F. Orth (EK I with brass core)
          O. Schickle (EK I with brass core, EK II with brass and zinc core)
          C.E. Juncker (EK I with brass core, EK II with zinc core)
          Wächtler & Lange (EK I with brass)
          Paulmann & Crone (EK II with zinc core)
          Steinhauer & Lück (EK I with brass core, EK II with brass core)
          F. Hoffstätter (EK I with brass core)
          Klein & Quenzer (EK II with brass or zinc core)

          But I believe that some non-magnetic EK's by S&L are post war.

          Regards

          Daniel
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          Daniel


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            #6
            Patrick,

            This is a zinc-cored Juncker EKII...

            Robert
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              #7
              there is a non magnetic cross ,one piece construction on emedals page 11 item # gra936 ( scarce version) that has peak my interest.what do you guys think about this one.and keep the pictures coming on those non magnetic ek1 and ek2. thanks

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                #8
                Patrick,

                Here's one more 1-piece textured-core Schinkel EKI for sale on the e-stand, very rare, very early cross. A search in the search bar will reveal others like this.
                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=304713

                Here's another brass-cored cross, an early S&L. The hardware in typical early S&L.

                Robert
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                  early S&L pin assembly...
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                    #10
                    Getting off track here just a little, here's an example of how many of the 1914 EK's were brass-cored as well. This piece was manufactured post-WWI, around 1925. The 835 stamp indicates that the frame and backplate are at least, maybe more, than 835/1000 parts pure silver. The brass core is just peaking through areas of the crown.

                    Robert
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                      #11
                      thanks

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                        #12
                        Patrick,

                        This is an 'L/19' Ferdinand Hoffstadter with a brass core; very difficult to find these with the iron core...

                        Robert
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                          Here's an 'L/58' Souval pinback with brass core. I also have the SB in brass as well...

                          Robert
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