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    Is this an original EK1

    Hello all

    I have come across this cross: is it a good one? if so any idea who the maker is?

    cheers

    dave
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    The reverse
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        #4
        i think jou have not much hope if aim right

        and somebody try'd to take the swastika off.???

        bad kwality .

        maybe aim mistaken

        lets see what others say

        regards kay
        Last edited by Montgomery Burns; 04-12-2008, 11:15 AM.

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          #5
          The back side looks like Funcke & Brüninghaus (L/56), but the front (non magnetic and the number design) is unknown for me. The unusual number design and the non magnetic core could be for an early version (39 - 41).

          At the moment I know two maker's which used these distinctive hinge and pin system.

          1. Funcke & Brüninghaus (116 and L/56)
          2. Juwelier Robert Koch, Frankfurt am Main (not sure), maybe he was a member of Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller (24)

          Regards

          Grueni
          Regards
          Daniel


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            #6
            Hello

            Thank you for your comments Kay and Grueni.

            Usually if a piece is denazified then they remove the swastika completely.

            so maybe this cross is no good?

            the website says it is an L/57 which is incorrect as there is no way this cross is an L/57.

            lets see what others say!

            cheers

            Dave

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              #7
              if jou want a good L57 ,, i know a respekted member off waf who has one.
              if aim not mistaken


              ,,,insted off buying this ugly item.

              its maybe cheap,,, but not a good investement.

              just my upiniun.

              kay

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                #8
                hmm...front looks like Deschler (core and frame).

                Curios

                Regards

                Grueni
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                Daniel


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                  #9
                  Originally posted by grueni1208 View Post
                  hmm...front looks like Deschler (core and frame).

                  Curios

                  Regards

                  Grueni

                  It doesnt look to me like there has been any repairs to the pin/catch set up: so what do you make of the hardware? does it fit in with a deschler?

                  just had a look and no it doesnt.
                  Last edited by DaveNZ; 04-12-2008, 04:51 AM.

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                    #10
                    I mean the number design and the frame (front).

                    Regards

                    Grueni
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                    Daniel


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                      #11
                      frame
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                      Daniel


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                        #12
                        Thanks for the pictures Grueni;

                        what are the red arrows pointing at? die flaws? excuse my lack of knowledge

                        I have yet to pay for this cross: bu must soon, however I am still unsure if it is original.

                        I thought it was good until i posted it here.

                        so apart from the fact it is denaz (which is fine as i collect these pieces), what do other members think?

                        regards

                        DAve

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                          #13
                          They haven't done a good job on de-nazifying...the swas stands out even more How much is the seller asking?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by DaveNZ View Post
                            what are the red arrows pointing at? die flaws? excuse my lack of knowledge
                            The distinctive frame with flaws.

                            I can't see an indication of repair, therefore I would say it could be an early Deschler EK I with non-magnetic core and a pin and hing system which is unusual for Deschler.

                            But it's only an assumption because I never saw this type of EK I before.

                            Regards

                            Grueni
                            Regards
                            Daniel


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                              #15
                              Is it for sure three part construction? There's some brass showing where the beading took a hit during the removal of the swastika. Looks like a one piece to me and the pin set up is all wrong for a pre 1945 one piece non magnetic EK1, I wouldn't get it....

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