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    #16
    No, it is certainly not what we'd expect to see in an original S&L. I think the photographic comparisons clearly show this.

    Robert

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      #17
      Originally posted by jt327gir View Post
      The date and swastika are not sharp, nor is the beading consistent and sharp. A fake, in my opinion.
      I think your right mate, i wouldnt want it for my collection. It just doesnt seem right atall.

      James M

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        #18
        Aboutr a year back I was approached by a German seller who had a truckload of these crosses.
        According to his story yhey were assembled from left-over stock.
        Although there was no way to verify this story, you see them popping up once in a while.

        I think this might be one of them.
        These crosses are dangerous to a lot of collectors.

        Best regards,
        Ben

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          #19
          Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
          Aboutr a year back I was approached by a German seller who had a truckload of these crosses.
          According to his story yhey were assembled from left-over stock.
          Although there was no way to verify this story, you see them popping up once in a while.

          I think this might be one of them.
          These crosses are dangerous to a lot of collectors.

          Best regards,
          Ben
          There we go. It's good to have you 'old salts' around with this history on certain crosses in the past. Thanks Ben!

          Robert

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            #20
            Originally posted by ben bijker View Post
            Aboutr a year back I was approached by a German seller who had a truckload of these crosses.
            According to his story yhey were assembled from left-over stock.
            Although there was no way to verify this story, you see them popping up once in a while.

            I think this might be one of them.
            These crosses are dangerous to a lot of collectors.

            Best regards,
            Ben
            Now that was what I was looking for to hear, I also know my cross is not acceptable next to an other L/16.

            So Ben, do you also know if these were indeed S&L left overs? My gut feeling tells me the frame would be ok, but the core would be a replacement.
            Kind regards,
            Giel

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              #21
              Giel, I think they collected left-over stock, all they could get their hands on.
              All these crosses have the shallow date, so it could have been either from a worn-out die that is still in use, rejected cores, or a complete new die.

              But they are usually sold as original.
              Haven't seen one with a "normal" makermark, they all look as if they were struck under an angle.
              Usually the L is fat, while the 6 is faint....

              Robert: that's what the forum is for, to share and learn..


              Best regaerds,
              Ben

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                #22
                Hello,

                the weight of my one with disc is 20,4 gramms.
                I hope it could be of some help.

                Best Franki

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                  more comparisons...

                  Robert
                  nice cross on the left,but its a fake on the right i think thease came from austria,as did a lot of other fakes,watch out as some are very good
                  Last edited by nigel2003; 04-04-2008, 04:48 AM.

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