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    #16
    Medal bar is incorrect it has the ICII after a Long service award??
    Whoever mounted them obviously didn't know the rules on the mounting order. Beautiful Spanish Cross Andi.

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      #17
      I have seen medal bars with a wrong ribbon for a foreign award (eg a spanish civil war ribbon for non combat instead of combat ribbon) but i would find it hard to believe that a German soldier would not have had this one changed as the EKII being second is a glaring error.
      Also, looking more closely at the medal bar the medals are at very different heights, most medals should be in a line along the bottom of the medals, although sometimes one may be lower due to having a different suspension type ring.
      Also i'm not sure whether the ribbons are actually the right width? Could be an idea to measure them.
      Ant.
      Last edited by antwhiplash; 02-11-2008, 02:51 PM.

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        #18
        most medals should be in a line along the bottom of the medals
        Again, it all depends on whose mounting them. And as for the order, I have seen many period photographs of awards being worn incorrectly or incorrectly mounted.

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          #19
          Awesome grouping I love that spanish cross!

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            #20
            Originally posted by PABLO_Teale View Post
            Again, it all depends on whose mounting them. And as for the order, I have seen many period photographs of awards being worn incorrectly or incorrectly mounted.
            I didn't mean an exact straight line & as you say each mounter would differ a little in methods but i for one can't remember seeing a Condor bar as out of line as this one.
            I'm still not convinced by the medal bar & other opinions would be interesting.
            Also if anyone has any period photo's of medal bars with incorrect medal placing i would love to see them as i have an interest in medal bars, especially Condor.
            Ant.

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              #21
              Originally posted by antwhiplash View Post
              I didn't mean an exact straight line & as you say each mounter would differ a little in methods but i for one can't remember seeing a Condor bar as out of line as this one.
              I'm still not convinced by the medal bar & other opinions would be interesting.
              Also if anyone has any period photo's of medal bars with incorrect medal placing i would love to see them as i have an interest in medal bars, especially Condor.
              Ant.
              Ant, there are many medal bars with improper mountings in period pics. Don't have any on hand though. I have to admit the EK being out of place is a very strange one, but I am not put off by it.

              Best, Sal

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                #22
                I have to admit, the long service award ahead of the EK is a huge blunder; but I've spent enough time here and elsewhere to know huge blunders - while rare - did occur. Here's a photo from another forum showing a period LC bar mounted in reverse order...
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Scott C. View Post
                  I have to admit, the long service award ahead of the EK is a huge blunder; but I've spent enough time here and elsewhere to know huge blunders - while rare - did occur. Here's a photo from another forum showing a period LC bar mounted in reverse order...
                  Thanks for the picture Scott, very interesting one as that bar is simply the wrong way round, someone was obviously confused by left & right!
                  Have looked through a 26 page thread here, which i've also posted on before, that shows just medal bars & i must say that after 26 pages of medalbars i still haven't seen one where the medals are so out of line.
                  I guess it's just one of those things, on a personal level the medal bar wouldn't be for me although each item in the grouping looks fine.
                  Ant.

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                    #24
                    Very nice grouping!!!

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                      #25
                      hello friends
                      thank you for the interesting comments.
                      unfortunately, the medalbar is not in corect linie installed, but it is just as it is.

                      greetings Andi

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                        #26
                        hello friends

                        can you help me with a fair market value , for this grouping .

                        regards Andi

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