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    #16
    This is a great thread guys with some interesting observations and key indicators to identify the difference in these two styles

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      #17
      I have never seen a more sturdy pin assembly on any EKI than from these two makers Godet and Zimmermann. They're built to withstand the hardest field conditions. I honestly think the loops would be torn free from the tunic before the pin or catch failed, really tough. The Deumer's pin is weak, thin compared to these two...

      Robert
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        #18
        Look at the quality of design, the numerous beading, the artistic design of the date, the exactness and high relief of the swastika. The Godets/Zimmermanns were/are beautiful...

        Robert
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          #19
          Originally posted by Paratrooper View Post
          Hi!

          This isn't a Zimmermann/Godet. It's an early Deumer. The main difference characteristic is the form inside of the needle before the hinge. I don't find the words in english. Because of that i'll show pictures from an Zimmermann and an Deumer to explain it.

          The crosses manufactured by Zimmermann and Godet are the same product. In the book "The Iron Cross of 1939" by Williamson you will find on the pages 145/146 a study about the similarity of an L/50 and L/52.

          Regards
          Andreas



          After I posted my thread concerning what I thought was my new Zimmerman, I sooned learned otherwise. I learned a good deal just by buying that last EK. Here's the link

          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=235450

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            #20
            I'm comparing the pix, since I don't have all three to compare anymore, this might be useful to identify them in the future...
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              #21
              Originally posted by R. Schmitt View Post
              I'm comparing the pix, since I don't have all three to compare anymore, this might be useful to identify them in the future...
              Perfect Rainer! My cross above is a marked (20) Zimmermann.

              Robert

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                #22
                Reverse

                backs: Deumer, Zimmermann, Godet (from left to right)
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by robert pierce View Post
                  Perfect Rainer! My cross above is a marked (20) Zimmermann.

                  Robert
                  And you're right about the aspect that the Zimmermanns and godets were pretty solid, that needle was the enlisted soldier's dagger

                  Hinges of all three to compare below - the lines on the Godet and (actually marked) Zimmermann as well as the cornered needle clearly visible
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                  Last edited by R. Schmitt; 08-17-2007, 09:49 AM.

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                    #24
                    catches at last - note how the Deumer is cut at the base and the Zimmermann's (took that from the pic you posted, Robert, hope you'll excuse, I did not have one at hand right now) and the Godet's "melt" into the cross...
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                      #25
                      Originally posted by R. Schmitt View Post
                      catches at last - note how the Deumer is cut at the base and the Zimmermann's (took that from the pic you posted, Robert, hope you'll excuse, I did not have one at hand right now) and the Godet's "melt" into the cross...
                      There shouldn't be any confusion now. Thank you, Rainer.

                      Robert

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