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    #16
    Here's a new scan of my Schickle Spange, which Robert posted photos of.
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      #17
      I think that if you look closely at the pebbling around the swaz and date you'll see differences between it and the Spange that led off this thread -- and certainly between it and the "Raptor" fake.
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        #18
        Thanks, George, for not biting my head off for posting your pics. I've gathered them along the way to help me in my study. You're exactly right about the pebbling. The study of the Raptor and the Schickle is so methodical, it almost wears a guy out. But the differences can be seen when you do the work. Wear of the badges, lighting and photography all add to the work. One thing I see on the Schickles that stand out are the catches. They almost look like the 'L/16' S&L's, but of course the pins and hinges are different.

        One other thing I've noticed that stands out on the Schickles are their '1's in the date. The top of the '1' is perfectly inline with the body of the number. The raptors are not. There is a difference there.

        Robert

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          #19
          "Thanks, George, for not biting my head off for posting your pics. "

          I post my pics for people to use to educate themselves and others. If they want to post them again to make a point, that's fine with me.
          George

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            #20
            raptors and l/15s are a nightmare!
            regards
            jon

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              #21
              Something I see in the Schickle vs. the Raptor fake are the differences in the 1's. The two dies definately produced two different products...

              Robert
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                #22
                Here's the First Class Spange in Otto Schickle's catalog.
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                George

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                  #23
                  George, I like the 'heel' or the base of the '1' in both your badge and the catalog diagram.

                  Robert

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                    #24
                    raptor

                    hi robert who made the raptor and when?thanks for all the info on this . cliff

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by cobra-2001 View Post
                      hi robert who made the raptor and when?thanks for all the info on this . cliff
                      Cliff,

                      I don't know. I've been here since 2002, and the rascal has been around since I started here. Perhaps someone else like Geroge or jon could answer that.

                      Robert

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