Help to ID three umarked EK2s please

[Seigfried]

Hi,
I've been cataloguing my collection and have been studying the following link http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...roncross_2.htm in order to try and identify the makers of these EK2s that I've had for some time, but unfortunately to my eye at least, they all look the same. I've also tried Gordon's book. Any help to ID them would be much appreciated.

Thank you,


No. 1

[Seigfried]

No. 2

[Seigfried]

No. 3 Schinkel

[Seigfried]

BTT

[Mark Holmes]

Honestly mate , 100% if i could help you i would .
I would love to be in the position to help others . Seems really hard to get people to id stuff now as theres so many requests .
I thought as you`d been about for a while you`d have got some help but seems that even that counts for nothing .
I absolutely love cross 3 ,you would think the strange numbers on the date should distinguish it apart from others but aparently the frames tell you more about a maker than the cores .
I cant remember what it was which i was told recently buy i think the low no3 on cross 2 is a telltale sign also . Just cant remember what the maker is.

[Steve Campbell]

It amazes me how people can look at an Iron Cross and tell who the maker was. Outside of a Souval or maybe a 24 wideframe, I can't tell either. Is the first one a 65?

[Mark Holmes]

Nah i dont think so. Times like this i wish i had a decent reference book . Lol

[Mark Holmes]

Something makes me think theres something Shinkel`ly about no3 ....
Maybe someone will take more pleasure in correcting me ....

[Tim K.]

Hi John,

The only one that I'm 100% sure of is #2...it's a Wachtler & Lange (maker 100).

Tim

[mokeys0]

Tim,

If you don't mind me asking. What markings tell that one is maker 100? I honestly don't see any MAJOR differences between the three.

thanks,
ERIC

[Hank C.]

Tim,

If you don't mind me asking. What markings tell that one is maker 100? I honestly don't see any MAJOR differences between the three.

thanks,
ERIC

The 100s have a "squished" area of beading in the corner just above the upper right corner of the swastika, as well as the hump where the lug ring attaches to the frame. They are often in very good condition, as this one here is.
The 1st cross above is interesting. Some of the inner corners are pointed, others round. Odd...interesting...

best
Hank

[Tim K.]

The 100s have a "squished" area of beading in the corner just above the upper right corner of the swastika, as well as the hump where the lug ring attaches to the frame. They are often in very good condition, as this one here is.
The 1st cross above is interesting. Some of the inner corners are pointed, others round. Odd...interesting...

best
Hank

And one additional thing...the dates are positioned lower (closer to the frame) on the W&L's (some other makers have that attribute, also).

Check out post #7 in the following thread...there is an excellect photo which illustrates the attributes of the Wachtler & Lange EK2.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...chtler+beading

[Seigfried]

Many thanks Tim and others! I can spot the minute differences in Assault Badges, Shields etc but I'm with you fellas in that when it comes to crosses I'm looking at them until I become crosseyed! I've had all my books out, trawled through the site believe me.

[mokeys0]

Thanks guys! Starting to get the picture. Still confused a bit. Someday I'll be able to identify the makers just from a picture, until then I'll leave it to the professionals.

Eric