My New Beautys From This Weekend !

[ChrisJ]

Lovely

Very nice indeed...congratulations......very interesting double 800 strike on the K&Q.

Enjoy !

[DavidB]

Cool pieces !
I wish my weekend buys would look like that !

Any information on who they belonged too?

Cheers,
David

[FrankS]

The "battle scarred" Junckers looks great!!!

I don't like the RK with the K&Q loop at all. It doesn't look like a K&Q. According to these photos it looks like a fake RK to me.

Regards,

Frank

[sszhj]

I am sorry ,i also think it lacked K&Q characteristic.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

I am sorry ,i also think it lacked K&Q characteristic.

...don't think....it just hasn't it's characteristics.
Pieter.

[Peter Wiking]

This is not a K&Q. Fake in my opinion.

Peter

[mads]

I agree, Looks nothing like a K&Q!

Sorry

Mads

[Douglas 5]

New Hungarian Fakes !!!

Hello Dieter and others :

Just got back in , so could not post this warning any sooner !

Your picture 13 in post #14 is a FAKE ! See picture for proof .

RK's I know not much about, so normaly would not noticed anything wrong if I had not in the last few weeks saved these markings .

I received this information and pictures from an European Forum that has run across these very recent fake RK , Oakleaves and some EK and their very unique markings .
From the responce to this thread this or some of it may not be known yet .

A Hungarian company is behind these fakes , they are showing up in Europe and now probably here . Not certain where the dies come from but do not match the maker known features that K&O have .

Send this RK back for sure . Have not checked the other one enough and the the German Cross mm 21 do not know either .

This company sofar has been linked to 6 different 800 silver content stamps .
And the following Maker Marks used are :
21
L/50
L/52
L/54
L/56
65 and more could show up , if not already .
Not sure how many different awards they have produced .

Lets hope the RK was almost free !
Being sold as I remember as bargan originals .

Index :items colored :
*: hollow mounting ring with seam
2nd Zero has flat centre flaw !
Beading shows same beading edge 'hook' features from same die .
Same rim flaw on frame below mounting ring

Regards, Douglas

[Douglas 5]

As with this picture the '800' is is harder to tell but fairly certain that 800 is a # 3 on the fake chart .
No luck with the other RK and German Cross , not enough material to compare them with .
I wounder , were they all bought as being original ??? Dieter ?
EBay or dealer purchase ?
The attached chart I got shows 2 different frame dies for the RK's with various markings . Mark combinations probably to be encountered . Have no full pictures of the RK,s .

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

The Hungarian Chart with fake frames , maker marks and purity grades !
A good collection chart of one manufacturer that will help to avoid an expensive mistake .
Douglas

[StefanK.]

the band-ring is original i suppose....

[WenRan]

I'am verry sorry for you Dieter.
I hope you get a refund .
That's wy I only buy from the e-stand.

And for Douglas5 , well done on your research.
I think lot's off bloke's here are amazed by your pic's and words .
Cheers

[Stephen Stout]

I'am verry sorry for you Dieter.
I hope you get a refund .
That's wy I only buy from the e-stand.

And for Douglas5 , well done on your research.
I think lot's off bloke's here are amazed by your pic's and words .
Cheers

Well look at this way you got an awesome real RK and a DKiG, which is more than what I will have in ten years (well maybe I will get a RK in four, already saved $1,500 for one). But sorry about the fake.
Stephen

[WenRan]

My beauty in my collection is a NPEA student leader dagger by eickhorn.
you can buy them by Wittman for 6 to 7000 $ .

But it was a gift from my Grandfather he brought it back from Germany in 1944
He was in labour there . He Died 5 years ago .
Never told me how he got it . Who knows how he got it .
He took the story with him.

My wife kills me if I bought a item over 500 $
Women , they dont understand our hobby

I bought behind her back a WKC heer dagger on the e-stand for 350 Euro.
She was 1 week .
Cheers

[rkdek]

What are you trying to say WenRan???