Lovely
Very nice indeed...congratulations......very interesting double 800 strike on the K&Q.
Enjoy !
Very nice indeed...congratulations......very interesting double 800 strike on the K&Q.
Enjoy !
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Cool pieces !
I wish my weekend buys would look like that !
Any information on who they belonged too?
Cheers,
DavidComment
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The "battle scarred" Junckers looks great!!!
I don't like the RK with the K&Q loop at all. It doesn't look like a K&Q. According to these photos it looks like a fake RK to me.
Regards,
FrankComment
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I am sorry ,i also think it lacked K&Q characteristic.Comment
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...don't think....it just hasn't it's characteristics.Originally posted by sszhj View Post
Pieter.SUUM CUIQUE ...
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This is not a K&Q. Fake in my opinion.
PeterComment
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I agree, Looks nothing like a K&Q!
Sorry
MadsComment
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New Hungarian Fakes !!!
Hello Dieter and others :
Just got back in , so could not post this warning any sooner !
Your picture 13 in post #14 is a FAKE ! See picture for proof .
RK's I know not much about, so normaly would not noticed anything wrong if I had not in the last few weeks saved these markings .
I received this information and pictures from an European Forum that has run across these very recent fake RK , Oakleaves and some EK and their very unique markings .
From the responce to this thread this or some of it may not be known yet .
A Hungarian company is behind these fakes , they are showing up in Europe and now probably here . Not certain where the dies come from but do not match the maker known features that K&O have .
Send this RK back for sure . Have not checked the other one enough and the the German Cross mm 21 do not know either .
This company sofar has been linked to 6 different 800 silver content stamps .
And the following Maker Marks used are :
21
L/50
L/52
L/54
L/56
65 and more could show up , if not already .
Not sure how many different awards they have produced .
Lets hope the RK was almost free !
Being sold as I remember as bargan originals .
Index :items colored :
*: hollow mounting ring with seam
2nd Zero has flat centre flaw !
Beading shows same beading edge 'hook' features from same die .
Same rim flaw on frame below mounting ring
Regards, DouglasLast edited by Douglas 5; 10-15-2006, 06:37 PM.Comment
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As with this picture the '800' is is harder to tell but fairly certain that 800 is a # 3 on the fake chart .
No luck with the other RK and German Cross , not enough material to compare them with .
I wounder , were they all bought as being original ??? Dieter ?
EBay or dealer purchase ?
The attached chart I got shows 2 different frame dies for the RK's with various markings . Mark combinations probably to be encountered . Have no full pictures of the RK,s .
DouglasComment
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The Hungarian Chart with fake frames , maker marks and purity grades !
A good collection chart of one manufacturer that will help to avoid an expensive mistake .
DouglasComment
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the band-ring is original i suppose....Comment
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I'am verry sorry for you Dieter.
I hope you get a refund .
That's wy I only buy from the e-stand.
And for Douglas5 , well done on your research.
I think lot's off bloke's here are amazed by your pic's and words .
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Well look at this way you got an awesome real RK and a DKiG, which is more than what I will have in ten yearsOriginally posted by WenRan View PostI'am verry sorry for you Dieter.
I hope you get a refund .
That's wy I only buy from the e-stand.
And for Douglas5 , well done on your research.
I think lot's off bloke's here are amazed by your pic's and words .
Cheers
(well maybe I will get a RK in four, already saved $1,500 for one). But sorry about the fake.
StephenComment
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My beauty in my collection is a NPEA student leader dagger by eickhorn.
you can buy them by Wittman for 6 to 7000 $ .
But it was a gift from my Grandfather he brought it back from Germany in 1944
He was in labour there . He Died 5 years ago .
Never told me how he got it . Who knows how he got it
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He took the story with him.
My wife kills me if I bought a item over 500 $
Women , they dont understand our hobby
I bought behind her back a WKC heer dagger on the e-stand for 350 Euro.
She was 1 week
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CheersComment
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What are you trying to say WenRan???"Wir Deutschen fürchten Gott und sonst nichts auf der Welt " BISMARCKComment
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