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    Can someone help me out here!
    I have a list of 145 ish makers marks for EK´s but I was told on a different thread that there was only a third of that!
    I just a little confused, why have a list of 140 odd when there is no where near that, can someone enlighten me?

    Thanks

    Daniel

    #2
    makers!!!

    Originally posted by schinkel2
    Can someone help me out here!
    I have a list of 145 ish makers marks for EK******180;s but I was told on a different thread that there was only a third of that!
    I just a little confused, why have a list of 140 odd when there is no where near that, can someone enlighten me?

    Thanks

    Daniel
    I counted in our database around "60" different makers for the EkII. You migh be confused by only looking at the last makers number (132 I believe). Between each makers individual number may be a gap. For example:

    They are no makers between "70" and "75". This gives a false impression of having "5" different makers when there are actually two. Hope I have expalined myself. I only have 45 more to complete my collection:

    Look here:
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...roncross_2.htm
    Understand this list is not 100% complete!!!

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      #3
      Daniel

      Can we see your list?
      George

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        #4
        Maybe he got confused with the list Richard Gordon posted here
        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

        But he has to know that the markers are in bold
        Last edited by Tiger89; 04-25-2006, 01:12 PM.

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          #5
          Heres the list that I have, i have seen the list of makers but I still dont understand why ive got 145 odd numbers.

          What I would like to know is if I was to collect ek 2´s by number/mm how many different numbers would i find on crosses?

          Anyway heres the list that I have.

          1 Deschler & SohnMünchen
          2 C.E. JunckerBerlin
          3 Wilhelm DeumerLüdenscheld
          4 Steinhauer & LückLüdenscheld
          5 Hermann WernsteinJena-Lobstedt
          6 Fritz ZimmermannStuttgart
          7 Paul MeybauerBerlin
          8 Ferdinand Hoffstädter Bonn
          9 Liefergsmeinschaft Scmuckhandwerker Pforzheim
          10 Foerster & Barth Pforzheim
          11 Grossmann & Co.Wien
          12 Frank & ReifStuttgart-Zuffenhausen
          13 Gustav Brehmer Markneukirchen/Sa
          14 L. Chr. Lauer Nurnberg-W
          15 Friedrich Orth Wien
          16 Alois RettenmalerSchwäblsch-Gmund
          17 (Unknown)
          18 Karl Wurster K.G. Markneukirchen/Sa
          19 E. Ferd WeidmannFrankfurt/Main
          20 C.F. ZimmermannPforzheim
          21 Gebr. Godet & Co.Berlin
          22 Boerger & Co.Berlin
          23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heereshedarf in der Graveur-ubd
          ZiselierungBerlin
          24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer PlakettenherstellerHanau
          25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silverschmeide-InnungenHanau
          26 B. H. Mayers KunstprägesanstaltPforzheim
          27 Anton Schenkls NachfolgerWien
          28 Eugen Schmidthaussier Pforzheim
          29 Hauptmunzamt Berlin
          30 Hauptmunzamt Wien
          31 Hans Gnad Wien
          32 W. Hobachter Wien
          33 Friedrich LindenLüdensched
          34 Willy Annetsberger Munchen
          35 F.W. Assmann und SöhneLüdensched
          36 Bury & Leonhard Hanau a. M
          37 Ad. Baumeister Ludenscheld
          38 (Unknown)
          39 Rudolf Berge Gablonz a.d.N.
          40 Berg & NolteLüdensched
          41 Gebrüder BenderOberstein/Nahe
          42 Biedermann & Co.Oberkassel bei Bonn
          43 Julius Bauer Sohne Zella Mehlisi/Thur
          44 Jakob BengelIdar/Oberdonau
          45 Franz Jungwirth Wien
          46 Hans Doppler Wels/Oberdonau
          47 Erhard & Sohne A.G. Schwabisch Gmund
          48 Richard Feix Gablonz a.d.N.
          49 Josef Feix SöhneGablonz a.d.Neckar
          50 Karl Gschiermeister Wien
          51 Eduard Goriach & Sohne Gablonz/N
          52 Gottlieb & WagnerIdar Oberstein
          53 Glaser & Sohne Dresden
          54 (Unknown)
          55 J.E. Hammer & SöhneGeringswalde
          56 Robert HauschildPforzheim
          56 Robert Hauschild Pforzheim
          57 Karl Hensler Pforzheim
          58 Artur Jakel & Co. Gablonz/N.
          59 Louis Keller Oberstein
          60 Katz & Deyhle Pforzheim
          61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Sohne Gablonz a.N.
          62 Kerbach & Oesterhelt Dresden
          63 Franz Klast & Sohne Gablonz a.N.
          64 Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn Pforzheim
          65 Klein & Quenzer A.G.Idar Oberstein
          66 Freidrich KellerOberstein
          67 H. Krelsel Gablonz a.N.
          68 Alfred Knobloch Gablonz a.N.
          69 Alols Klammer Innsbruck
          70 Lind & Meyrer
          71 Rudolf Leukert Oberstein a.d.N.
          72 Franz Lipp Pforzheim
          73 Frank Manert Gablonz a.N.
          74 Carl Maurer Sohn Oberstein/Nahe
          75 (Unknown)
          76 Ernst L. MüllerPforzheim
          77 Bayer. Hauptmunzamt Munchen
          78 Gustav Miksch Gablonz/N.
          79 (Unknown)
          80 G.H. Osang Dresden
          81 Overhoff & Cie Ludenscheid
          82 Augustin Prager Gablonz a.N.
          83 Emll Peukert Gablonz a.N.
          84 Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen
          85 Julius Pletsch Gablonz/N.
          86 Paulmann & Crone Ludenscheid
          87 Roman Palme Gablonz a.N.
          88 Werner Redo Saarlautern
          89 Rudolf Richter Schlag 244 b. Gablonz
          90 Aug. F. Richter K.G. Hamburg
          91 Josef Rossler & Co. Gablonz a.d.N.
          92 Josef Rucker & Sohn Gablonz a.d.N.
          93 Richard Simm & SöhneGablonz a.d.Neckar
          94 Adolf ScholzeGrünwald a.d.Neckar
          95 Adolf Scholze Grunwald a.d.N.
          96 (Unknown)
          97 (Unknown)
          98 Rudolf SouvalWien
          99 Schwertner & Cle. Eggenberg
          100 Rudolf Wächtler & LangeMittweida
          101 Rudolf Tam Gablonz a.d.N.
          102 Philipp Turks Ww. Wien
          103 Aug. G. TamGablonz a.d. Neckar
          104 Hein. Ulbricht's Ww.Kaufing bei Schwanenstadt
          105 Heinrich Vogt Pforzheim
          106 Brüder Schneider A.G.Wien
          107 Carl Wild Hamburg
          108 Arno WallpachSalzburg
          109 Walter & HenteinGablonz
          110 Otto Zappe Gablonz a.d.N.
          111 Ziemer & Sohne Oberstein
          112 Argentor Werke Rust & Hetzel Wien
          113 Hermann AurichDresden
          114 Ludwig Bertsch Karlsruhe
          115 (Unknown)
          116 Frunke & Brunninghaus Ludenscheld
          117 Hugo Lang Wiesenthal a.N.
          118 August Menzs & Sohn Wien
          119 (Unknown)
          120 Franz PetzlWien
          121 (Unknown)
          122 JJ. StahlStrassburg
          123 Beck, Hassinger & Co.Strassburg
          124 Rudolf Schanes Wien
          125 Eugen GaussPforzheim
          126 Eduard Hahn Oberstein/Nahe
          127 Moritz Hausch A.G. Pforzheim
          128 S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. Posen
          132 Franz ReischauerOberstein
          133 (Unknown)
          134 Otto Klein & Co. Hanau
          135 Julius Moser sen Oberstein
          136 J.Wagner & Sohn Berlin
          137 J.H. WernerBerlin
          138 Julius Maurer Oberstein
          139 Hymmen & Co.Ludenscheid
          140 Schauerte & Hohfeld Ludenscheid
          141 Sohni, Heubach & Co Oberstein
          142 A.D. Schwerdt Stuttgart


          L/11 Wilhelm DeumerLüdensched, Postfach 161
          L/12 C. E. JunckerBerlin SW 68, Alte Jakobstr. 13
          L/14 Friedrich OrthWien

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            #6
            Originally posted by schinkel2
            Heres the list that I have, i have seen the list of makers but I still dont understand why ive got 145 odd numbers.

            What I would like to know is if I was to collect ek 2******180;s by number/mm how many different numbers would i find on crosses?
            Sorry but thats not the right list, its not a "only markers list"
            That list is the one i spoke before, is the one from Richard Gordon

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              #7
              Check the post of Richard Gordon here:

              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

              See, its the same list you have i think
              But not everyone is a marker
              Only the ones in bold are markers

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                #8
                Originally posted by Tiger89
                Check the post of Richard Gordon here:

                http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

                See, its the same list you have i think
                But not everyone is a marker
                Only the ones in bold are markers
                ahh got you now, its just clicked

                so there are only some that stamped them!

                thats made my life a lot easyier

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                  #9
                  Just to confirm.. the list is all known makers but for any award not specifically for the EK. Those in bold are which have been identified as EK2 makers through markings on the ring.

                  Regards
                  Rich
                  Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
                  Decorations of Germany

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