EK Makers marks

[schinkel2]

Can someone help me out here!
I have a list of 145 ish makers marks for EK´s but I was told on a different thread that there was only a third of that!
I just a little confused, why have a list of 140 odd when there is no where near that, can someone enlighten me?

Thanks

Daniel

[GELIS44]

makers!!!

Can someone help me out here!
I have a list of 145 ish makers marks for EK******180;s but I was told on a different thread that there was only a third of that!
I just a little confused, why have a list of 140 odd when there is no where near that, can someone enlighten me?

Thanks

Daniel

I counted in our database around "60" different makers for the EkII. You migh be confused by only looking at the last makers number (132 I believe). Between each makers individual number may be a gap. For example:

They are no makers between "70" and "75". This gives a false impression of having "5" different makers when there are actually two. Hope I have expalined myself. I only have 45 more to complete my collection:

Look here:
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/iron...roncross_2.htm
Understand this list is not 100% complete!!!

[George Stimson]

Daniel

Can we see your list?

[Santi]

Maybe he got confused with the list Richard Gordon posted here
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

But he has to know that the markers are in bold

[schinkel2]

Heres the list that I have, i have seen the list of makers but I still dont understand why ive got 145 odd numbers.

What I would like to know is if I was to collect ek 2´s by number/mm how many different numbers would i find on crosses?

Anyway heres the list that I have.

1 Deschler & SohnMünchen
2 C.E. JunckerBerlin
3 Wilhelm DeumerLüdenscheld
4 Steinhauer & LückLüdenscheld
5 Hermann WernsteinJena-Lobstedt
6 Fritz ZimmermannStuttgart
7 Paul MeybauerBerlin
8 Ferdinand Hoffstädter Bonn
9 Liefergsmeinschaft Scmuckhandwerker Pforzheim
10 Foerster & Barth Pforzheim
11 Grossmann & Co.Wien
12 Frank & ReifStuttgart-Zuffenhausen
13 Gustav Brehmer Markneukirchen/Sa
14 L. Chr. Lauer Nurnberg-W
15 Friedrich Orth Wien
16 Alois RettenmalerSchwäblsch-Gmund
17 (Unknown)
18 Karl Wurster K.G. Markneukirchen/Sa
19 E. Ferd WeidmannFrankfurt/Main
20 C.F. ZimmermannPforzheim
21 Gebr. Godet & Co.Berlin
22 Boerger & Co.Berlin
23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heereshedarf in der Graveur-ubd
ZiselierungBerlin
24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer PlakettenherstellerHanau
25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silverschmeide-InnungenHanau
26 B. H. Mayers KunstprägesanstaltPforzheim
27 Anton Schenkls NachfolgerWien
28 Eugen Schmidthaussier Pforzheim
29 Hauptmunzamt Berlin
30 Hauptmunzamt Wien
31 Hans Gnad Wien
32 W. Hobachter Wien
33 Friedrich LindenLüdensched
34 Willy Annetsberger Munchen
35 F.W. Assmann und SöhneLüdensched
36 Bury & Leonhard Hanau a. M
37 Ad. Baumeister Ludenscheld
38 (Unknown)
39 Rudolf Berge Gablonz a.d.N.
40 Berg & NolteLüdensched
41 Gebrüder BenderOberstein/Nahe
42 Biedermann & Co.Oberkassel bei Bonn
43 Julius Bauer Sohne Zella Mehlisi/Thur
44 Jakob BengelIdar/Oberdonau
45 Franz Jungwirth Wien
46 Hans Doppler Wels/Oberdonau
47 Erhard & Sohne A.G. Schwabisch Gmund
48 Richard Feix Gablonz a.d.N.
49 Josef Feix SöhneGablonz a.d.Neckar
50 Karl Gschiermeister Wien
51 Eduard Goriach & Sohne Gablonz/N
52 Gottlieb & WagnerIdar Oberstein
53 Glaser & Sohne Dresden
54 (Unknown)
55 J.E. Hammer & SöhneGeringswalde
56 Robert HauschildPforzheim
56 Robert Hauschild Pforzheim
57 Karl Hensler Pforzheim
58 Artur Jakel & Co. Gablonz/N.
59 Louis Keller Oberstein
60 Katz & Deyhle Pforzheim
61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Sohne Gablonz a.N.
62 Kerbach & Oesterhelt Dresden
63 Franz Klast & Sohne Gablonz a.N.
64 Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn Pforzheim
65 Klein & Quenzer A.G.Idar Oberstein
66 Freidrich KellerOberstein
67 H. Krelsel Gablonz a.N.
68 Alfred Knobloch Gablonz a.N.
69 Alols Klammer Innsbruck
70 Lind & Meyrer
71 Rudolf Leukert Oberstein a.d.N.
72 Franz Lipp Pforzheim
73 Frank Manert Gablonz a.N.
74 Carl Maurer Sohn Oberstein/Nahe
75 (Unknown)
76 Ernst L. MüllerPforzheim
77 Bayer. Hauptmunzamt Munchen
78 Gustav Miksch Gablonz/N.
79 (Unknown)
80 G.H. Osang Dresden
81 Overhoff & Cie Ludenscheid
82 Augustin Prager Gablonz a.N.
83 Emll Peukert Gablonz a.N.
84 Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen
85 Julius Pletsch Gablonz/N.
86 Paulmann & Crone Ludenscheid
87 Roman Palme Gablonz a.N.
88 Werner Redo Saarlautern
89 Rudolf Richter Schlag 244 b. Gablonz
90 Aug. F. Richter K.G. Hamburg
91 Josef Rossler & Co. Gablonz a.d.N.
92 Josef Rucker & Sohn Gablonz a.d.N.
93 Richard Simm & SöhneGablonz a.d.Neckar
94 Adolf ScholzeGrünwald a.d.Neckar
95 Adolf Scholze Grunwald a.d.N.
96 (Unknown)
97 (Unknown)
98 Rudolf SouvalWien
99 Schwertner & Cle. Eggenberg
100 Rudolf Wächtler & LangeMittweida
101 Rudolf Tam Gablonz a.d.N.
102 Philipp Turks Ww. Wien
103 Aug. G. TamGablonz a.d. Neckar
104 Hein. Ulbricht's Ww.Kaufing bei Schwanenstadt
105 Heinrich Vogt Pforzheim
106 Brüder Schneider A.G.Wien
107 Carl Wild Hamburg
108 Arno WallpachSalzburg
109 Walter & HenteinGablonz
110 Otto Zappe Gablonz a.d.N.
111 Ziemer & Sohne Oberstein
112 Argentor Werke Rust & Hetzel Wien
113 Hermann AurichDresden
114 Ludwig Bertsch Karlsruhe
115 (Unknown)
116 Frunke & Brunninghaus Ludenscheld
117 Hugo Lang Wiesenthal a.N.
118 August Menzs & Sohn Wien
119 (Unknown)
120 Franz PetzlWien
121 (Unknown)
122 JJ. StahlStrassburg
123 Beck, Hassinger & Co.Strassburg
124 Rudolf Schanes Wien
125 Eugen GaussPforzheim
126 Eduard Hahn Oberstein/Nahe
127 Moritz Hausch A.G. Pforzheim
128 S. Jablonski G.m.b.H. Posen
132 Franz ReischauerOberstein
133 (Unknown)
134 Otto Klein & Co. Hanau
135 Julius Moser sen Oberstein
136 J.Wagner & Sohn Berlin
137 J.H. WernerBerlin
138 Julius Maurer Oberstein
139 Hymmen & Co.Ludenscheid
140 Schauerte & Hohfeld Ludenscheid
141 Sohni, Heubach & Co Oberstein
142 A.D. Schwerdt Stuttgart


L/11 Wilhelm DeumerLüdensched, Postfach 161
L/12 C. E. JunckerBerlin SW 68, Alte Jakobstr. 13
L/14 Friedrich OrthWien

[Santi]

Heres the list that I have, i have seen the list of makers but I still dont understand why ive got 145 odd numbers.

What I would like to know is if I was to collect ek 2******180;s by number/mm how many different numbers would i find on crosses?

Sorry but thats not the right list, its not a "only markers list"
That list is the one i spoke before, is the one from Richard Gordon

[Santi]

Check the post of Richard Gordon here:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

See, its the same list you have i think
But not everyone is a marker
Only the ones in bold are markers

[schinkel2]

Check the post of Richard Gordon here:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=19336

See, its the same list you have i think
But not everyone is a marker
Only the ones in bold are markers

ahh got you now, its just clicked

so there are only some that stamped them!

thats made my life a lot easyier

[Rich G]

Just to confirm.. the list is all known makers but for any award not specifically for the EK. Those in bold are which have been identified as EK2 makers through markings on the ring.

Regards
Rich