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    #1

    Anyone have a list of kvk2 makers?

    Hi Guys,
    To be more precise, I am looking to see if anyone has a list of the maker marks stamped on the rings of kvk2s. Both with and without swords. I tried a search without success. Any help would be appreciated.
    Many thanks in advance.
    Sincerely Andy B.
    Collecting minis and KVKs
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    Originally posted by Andy Berentsen
    Hi Guys,
    To be more precise, I am looking to see if anyone has a list of the maker marks stamped on the rings of kvk2s. Both with and without swords. I tried a search without success. Any help would be appreciated.
    Many thanks in advance.
    Sincerely Andy B.
    Hi Andy,

    Can't remember seeing a list of KVK makers ... only hope Gordon's book comes out soon:

    http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=662

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      #3
      Hi Darrell, I think your right. That book would help alot. Come on Gordon, if your watching don't keep us in suspense.
      Andy
      Collecting minis and KVKs

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        #4
        I'm looking forward to getting my hands on that book...

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          #5
          So am I. However Chris Ailsby's (Warlord) book "A Collectors guide nto: WORLD WAR 2 GERMAN MEDALS AND POLITICAL AWARDS" lists the following:

          KVK2 with swords

          4, 14 (in square), 18, 19, 34, 43, 45, 56, 57, (in oblong box), 101, 113, Jakob Bengel

          I am assuming the name is from an envelope.
          From my collection I can add the following:

          53, 67, 100, L11, L58,

          For the KvK2 without Swords he list's the same numbers and I can also add:

          50, 52, 55, 66.

          Hope this helps

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            #6
            Thanks Laurence
            To add to that list I have:
            w/swords: 87
            w/o swords: 88, 60 (at least is looks like a 60 with the top of the 6 cut off).
            Andy B.
            Collecting minis and KVKs

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              #7
              I have these:

              Second Class -- without swords

              14. Lauer
              17. Unk
              19. E. Ferd. Wiedmann
              36. Bury & Leonhard
              41. Gebruder Bender
              52. Gottleib und Wagner
              60. Katz & Dreyhle (with packet, marked)
              75. Unk
              15. Friedrich Orth (with packet, marked - cross marked 77)
              88. Werner Redo
              99. Schweitzer & Cie
              107. Carl Wilde
              136.

              Second Class - with swords

              3. Wilhelm Deumer
              6. Fritz Zimmermann
              7. Paul Meybauer
              9. Liefergemeinschaft Pforzheimer Schmuckhandwerker
              10. Foerster & Barth
              11.
              13. Gustav Bremer
              14. Lauer
              15. Friedrich Orth
              16. Alois Rettenmaier
              18. Karl Wurster KG
              19. E. Ferd. Wiedmann
              31. Hans Gnad
              34. Willy Annetsberger
              38. Unk
              40. Berg & Nolte
              41. Gebruder Bender
              42. Bindermann & Co.
              45. Franz Jungwirth
              53. Glaser & Sohn
              56. Robert Hauschild
              61. Rudolf A. Karnethz
              63. Franz J. Klast & Sohne
              64. Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn
              65. Klein & Quenzer
              67. H. Kriesel
              68. Alfred Knobloch
              72. Franz Lipp
              74. Carl Maurer Sohn
              82. Augustin Prager
              87. Roman Palme
              89. Rudolf Richter
              90. August F. Richter
              91. Josef Rossler & Co.
              93. Richard Simm & Sohne
              95. Adolf Scholze
              100. Rudolf Wachtler & Lange
              101. Rudolf Tam
              107. Carl Wild
              108. Arno Wallpach
              110. Otto Zappe
              113. Hermann Aurich
              127. Moritz Hausch AG
              133. Unk
              135. Julius Mosersen
              George

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                #8
                Anyone have a list of 1st Class? The list must be fairly short. Surprisingly, you dont see very many different makers of these. They tend to fall into about 9-10 manufacturers.

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                  #9
                  Here are the ones I have. I've not seen too many others.

                  First Class - with swords

                  1. Deschler
                  3. Wilhelm Deumer
                  4. Steinhauer & Luck
                  15. Friedrich Orth
                  43. Julius Bauer Sohne
                  62. Kerbach & Osterhelt, tombak, cased
                  62. Kerbach & Osterhelt, zinc
                  65. Klein & Quenzer, tombak, unusual mark
                  65. Klein & Quenzer, zinc, “accepted” mark
                  84. Carl Pellath
                  L/10. Deschler
                  L/11. Wilhelm Deumer
                  L/12. Juncker
                  L/13. Paul Meybauer
                  L/21. Foerster & Barth
                  L/52. Zimmermann
                  L/57. Boerger & Co.
                  Stickpin, L/57 Boerger & Co.
                  Unmarked, probably Petz u. Lorenz. U. Reichenbach WTTBG

                  First Class - without swords

                  4. Steinhauer & Luck
                  15. Friedrich Orth
                  L/11. Wilhelm Deumer
                  L15. Otto Schickle
                  L/21. Foerster & Barth
                  50. Karl Gschiermeister
                  George

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                    #10
                    Thanks George.

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                      #11
                      I can also think of "L15" and "L/58" as accepted makers of the KVK 1 with swords.
                      George

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                        #12
                        Thanks George
                        Collecting minis and KVKs

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                          #13
                          I can add that the maker "11" for second class with swords is Grossmann & Co. Wien

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                            #14
                            I received "25" (Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und Silberschemiede-Innungen
                            Hanau) and "60" (Katz u. Dehle Pforzheim) marked 2nd class w/swords in a small grouping.

                            best
                            Hank
                            Last edited by Hank Cummings; 06-15-2008, 01:40 AM. Reason: more info
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                              #15
                              i have seen on a dealer a 65 2nd class without swords.

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