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**Peter Wiking** · 02-19-2006, 09:01 AM

I do not want to ruin a deal, but are you sure that the cross is genuine? The 800 mark could be found on many RK's. Not only Juncker.

Cheers.
Peter

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 01:27 PM

Pictures

I've got some pictures - my camera was totally out of control.
Appreciate some comments - if the item is worth to take any better pictures at all and to think about it .Thanks !!

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 01:29 PM

another one

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 01:32 PM

next one

**Dave Kane** · 02-20-2006, 01:33 PM

Midas, stay away at any price...it's a reproduction.

As an aside it doesn't in any manner 'look like' a Juncker.

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 01:38 PM

and another one

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 01:40 PM

and last one - I have some more but not a good quality.

**michael leone** · 02-20-2006, 02:05 PM

bad kc

the medal pictured is a poor copy of the knights cross. a bargain kc will usually be an item you would wish to have never purchased.

stick to a textbook example, buy it from an established dealer with a return policy, and if possible get it at a major show where you can have more than one opinion on the cross. you may be able to find a bargain iron cross second class, but NOT a bargain KC.

**Midas** · 02-20-2006, 02:22 PM

Thanks for your opinions. I'll keep clear of it .

**Ludwig** · 02-20-2006, 04:30 PM

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OK, it has already been said, but once again: save your money and leave this crap!

**Dave Kane** · 02-20-2006, 04:38 PM

Midas, in deference to your friend and to be clear about my statement of not looking anything like a period Juncker this 'type' of fake many years ago was put forth as a Juncker.

People relied on the very prominent Swaz and the weight and disregarded other very obvious signs.

**Midas** · 02-21-2006, 05:51 AM

First time I've seen it about 2 years ago - as far as I remember I had better impression that time. While making pictures yesterday I had it first time in hands - details of frame convinced me already in totally opposite direction.
The cross was purchased in middle nineties , the core was covered with slight rust all over.
But as mentioned - I'll just forget it.
Thanks and regards

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