KVK 1st Class on e-stand

[Darrell]

Hi guys .... take a look at this one:

Sorry -- Wrong Link ... Jeff is correct with the link he supplied.

afraid it's the dreaded FL*CH

[Colorado]

I think this is the link you want Darrell, the other points wrong:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=140585

I agree it looks like a Floch.

[Peter Wiking]

Reproduction.

Cheers.
Peter

[Laurence Strong]

Missing the oval plate for the base of the pin.

[Paul Carter]

This is the first of these I've had. It came in a grouping I just bought. I know the case is good, but I am at a loss on the cross. Can you give me some pointers as to why this piece is lacking? I am a cloth guy and badges are a area which I am still learning. The quality appears excellent overall. Thanks for any help. I'll withdraw it from the e-stand untill it can be discussed. I was compairing it to the one in Detlev's book, and that one doesn't have a plate for the catch either??

[Laurence Strong]

Hi Paul l15 need to have the oval base plate on the hinge mech.

[Laurence Strong]

With swords

[Darrell]

Hi Paul,

Although mostly a thread about Fake EKs ... the reverse setup of the Floches are always the same. Take a look here and compare the reverse pin / catch and hinge characteristics to yours.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=101955

BTW ... almost everyone has been fooled by these at one time or another ...

[Darrell]

I was compairing it to the one in Detlev's book, and that one doesn't have a plate for the catch either??

The one you refer to Paul (on Detlev's Guide p.532) is a different maker. It is a "15" which is different than the one the Floch is trying to represent which is an "L15".

If you look at p.534, that is a correct L15 with Swords. It is the same type as Larry posted above. Note the plate behind the hinge? That's one indicator of an original L15 cross.

[Paul Carter]

Kvk

I really appreciate all the help guys. This has been a learning experience for me. If I can ever help with SS cloth, please ask. Well, I guess I'll scrap the metal and sell the case. I know it is good.

[Laurence Strong]

For information's sake a MM15 Friedrich Orth

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=98956