KVK1 MM L/11- De- Nazified or ‘57??

[Douglas 5]

KvK ?

Hi Peter :

With the information I had at the time it seamed a possibilty . Tried inqiuring about it , but the site has not replied and the poor workmanship( lower blob) did not appear original to the piece. The finish matched to an original L18 quite well . Collecting is always full of surprizes . The correction is appreciated .
Will try to remove or correct the post if I can .
The next picture 57 conversion ?

Regards , Douglas

[Douglas 5]

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[Douglas 5]

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[Henri S]

That could actually be an early 1957 award. The very early ones did not have the 1939. Here is a shot of one I had and recently sold to a forum member:

[Henri S]

I guess this puts a new perspective to the thread !!

Reverse

[Douglas 5]

Hi Henri :

Are you refering to post 12 and 20 ...or 1 ?

[Grant Broadhurst]

I would not go as far to say it,s an Early 1957 piece .

It,s actually a guess by the company , a prototype that was made post 1945 pre 1957 .

There are a small number of KvK,s and EK,s with blank cores these are quite rare .

Then when the 1957 regulations stated that the KvK,s had the 1939 date and the Ek,s had the Oakleaf and 1939 date they then altered the tooling for this .

Henri by the looks of it this is very rare , first time i,ve seen a KvK one . I have owned a prototype EK1 and EK2 and they were made exactly the same as the 1957 issues except that they had blank front and back cores with no dates .

[Douglas 5]

Pebbling in the centre looks made with the cross , nice ! Were many of these made befor the 1939 was added in 1957 ?

Douglas

[Douglas 5]

Thanks Grant ,

That answers my question . Wow

Douglas

[Henri S]

Yes possibly these were issued before the 1957 regulations came in force, so actaul factory supplied denaz awards.

I would not go as far to say it,s an Early 1957 piece .

It,s actually a guess by the company , a prototype that was made post 1945 pre 1957 .

There are a small number of KvK,s and EK,s with blank cores these are quite rare .

Then when the 1957 regulations stated that the KvK,s had the 1939 date and the Ek,s had the Oakleaf and 1939 date they then altered the tooling for this .

Henri by the looks of it this is very rare , first time i,ve seen a KvK one . I have owned a prototype EK1 and EK2 and they were made exactly the same as the 1957 issues except that they had blank front and back cores with no dates .

[Grant Broadhurst]

Yes Henri ,

Although with the time period 1945 - 1957 nearly 12 years and the amount of these i have seen i would lean to the fact that these were prototypes .

I,ve only ever seen 2 EK2,s , 3 EK1,s and the 1 KvK that you have shown .

Although you never know , some bright spark could have had these made up at the factory for vets who had either lost theirs or did not want to damage their wartime ones ??

I suppose we,ll never know for sure .

[Henri S]

Was refering to post 1, but as I wrote above, factory denazified, what I could have wrongly specified as a 57er, but issued before that date, so one can actually can not call it a 57er . Wow that sounds confusing now .

_ wrote that in a hurry at work with my boss in the office

Hi Henri :

Are you refering to post 12 and 20 ...or 1 ?

[Henri S]

Just to add a bit more, the pebbling in the center of the one I had was exactly as the pebbling in the cross's arms, thus my conclusion of being factory made.

[Douglas 5]

Does yours have a maker mark Henri ?

[Henri S]

Unfortunately it did not

Does yours have a maker mark Henri ?