Mystery Black Afrika solved

[Schütze0815]

Hi Gents,
found it finally:
Please check that out.

http://www.bacuffz.com/2018/08/29/bl...ka-cuff-title/
Best
Sascha

[Frank Pacheco]

Very informative, thanks for sharing.

[Antonio Scapini]

Hi Sascha, nice picture, but we already had a period documentation about this type of cufftitle. I was only waiting to publish it because it will be published in a book about the campaign cufftitles.

[djpool]

Hi Sascha, nice picture, but we already had a period documentation about this type of cufftitle. I was only waiting to publish it because it will be published in a book about the campaign cufftitles.

I agree with Antonio that it hasn't been a mystery for a long time. I
encountered my first Black CT over 20 years ago. I got a picture of the CT directly from the vet. Jim

PS The KURTZ book also has a picture of the Ct in wear.

[Schütze0815]

I agree with Antonio that it hasn't been a mystery for a long time. I
encountered my first Black CT over 20 years ago. I got a picture of the CT directly from the vet. Jim

PS The KURTZ book also has a picture of the Ct in wear.

@Antonio:
Sorry my friend, did not know that.....
Let me know when you are done and I will show your book in my Blog
That will help a little bit....hopefully

@djpool
Nice picture !
But it shows AFRIKAKORPS and not AFRIKA. I have the black Afrikakorps also in my collection.

KR
Sascha

[Pascal H.]

Great work Sascha and thanks for sharing.
Maybe this was known by a handful of collectors but definitely not by most of us.

I am sure this will not influence Antonio's book as his book on campaign cufftitles will be great as all his other books.

Kr
Pascal

[djpool]

[QUOTE=Schütze0815;8247747]@Antonio:
Sorry my friend, did not know that.....
Let me know when you are done and I will show your book in my Blog
That will help a little bit....hopefully

@djpool
Nice picture !
But it shows AFRIKAKORPS and not AFRIKA. I have the black Afrikakorps also in my collection.

KR
Sascha[/QUOT

Hi Sascha,

My mistake. That's what happens when you don't read closely. I haven't seen the black Afrika CT. KURTZ does show a Black Afrika CT and classified it as an early LW version. I didn't remember seeing a wartime picture of the Black Afrika CT in his book. Jim

[Tim O'Keefe]

Most DAK collectors have known about the various black ct's for many years, not too much mystery about it. First was the black AKCT as early as June '41. Worn by the Herr and a KM version with yellow lettering as well. Then there is the Afrika ct in block letters in both black and dark royal blue used by the Herr and LW. The LW had a gothic letter Afrika ct in mid to royal blue & black like the above threadstarter. The black gothic lettered Afrika ct was also worn by the Herr Pz troopen in Europe. Then the rarest of black ct's from the North African campaign the gothic lettered DAK ct, this one from a member of the 33rd Art Regt DAK. Thanks Mike.

All were un-official ct's purchased and worn by the troops.

[Antonio Scapini]

Then there is the Afrika ct in block letters in both black and dark royal blue used by the Herr and LW. The LW had a gothic letter Afrika ct in mid to royal blue & black like the above threadstarter. The black gothic lettered Afrika ct was also worn by the Herr Pz troopen in Europe.

Any period proof or support about what you say Tim?
- Block letters cufftitle black and blue;
- gothic letter Afrika worn by Pz. Troops.

[Tim O'Keefe]

Hi Antonio

Here you go, look at wraps in Normandy too.

Here is a cool thread also...

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=black+afrika

ciao
Tim

[Antonio Scapini]

Tim, to be honest I see no one proof supporting what you said.

First the Afrika CT you posted is IMO a fake.
Second, as far as I know there's no one single evidence about the fact the Gothic AFRIKA CT was worn from Pz. troops too.

[Sveimhugi]

Hi Gents,
found it finally:
Please check that out.

http://www.bacuffz.com/2018/08/29/bl...ka-cuff-title/
Best
Sascha

Hi Sascha

Very nice blog.
I have been following it for quite some time.
Thank you for sharing your work

Schöne Grüsse / Sindri

[MaxM89]

great article Sascha

Hi Sascha, nice picture, but we already had a period documentation about this type of cufftitle. I was only waiting to publish it because it will be published in a book about the campaign cufftitles.

who comes first ...

[Antonio Scapini]

who comes first ...

Not a problem at all. On the book there will be other pictures and other proofs...
It is right to share new discoveries!
Sascha is a friend and a good guy and his efforts are precious for our hobby!

[MaxM89]

Yes you are right,is there a date when your book comes out ?