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    #1

    Krim Shield from unknown maker

    Gentlemen,
    I like this shield, but I know that some consider it as a fake. In Russia for example...
    What your opinion?
    Thanks.



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    #2
    This pattern is IMO a good original one.

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      #3
      wartime typ

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        #4
        Thanks, Antonio and kraut72.

        Those in Russia who don't recognise this type say that it has appeared not long ago to stand their ground.
        Nobody knew of it even 20-30 years ago.
        And now this type is widely spread and almost all dealers have it for sale.
        Any comments on such opinion?

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          #5
          Originally posted by kraut72 View Post
          wartime typ
          Hi,
          is any prove for this statement. IMO, at least questionable shield

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            #6
            Originally posted by andrei1774 View Post
            Hi,
            is any prove for this statement. IMO, at least questionable shield
            Yes there is!!

            Of all the shields of this type I have in my collection there at least 2 of them which make part of a grouping. A grouping received directly from the vet's family and which never made part of any collection.

            Also the progress of the wearing of the dies is very noticeable on this type of shield. Varying from highly detailed (zinc) to well worn die struck (iron sheet - late war).

            I hope that the statement that this type is not original is not based on the fact that this type of shield was never found in Russia as a ground dug so therefore is must be fake.

            Here is the same shield together with its grouping.

            Kr
            Pascal
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            Last edited by Pascal H.; 09-21-2013, 08:31 AM.

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              #7
              Pascal,
              thanks to posting nice Krim shield. Yes, this type of shield are questionable in Russia. I actually have one in my collection.
              But the shield from topic stater has few differences and I try to mark them. Is it fake, bad light, different die, different press I do not know, but differences exist IMO.
              Regards,
              Andrei
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                #8
                Andrei

                this shield typ find official/Museum/ collection Hungary

                this typ from be 1943 in Museum


                Originally posted by andrei1774 View Post
                Hi,
                is any prove for this statement. IMO, at least questionable shield

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by kraut72 View Post
                  Andrei

                  this shield typ find official/Museum/ collection Hungary

                  this typ from be 1943 in Museum
                  "Amicus Plato, sed magis amica veritas"

                  Can you show pictures of the this shield of the museum? Тhanks in advance

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by andrei1774 View Post
                    Pascal,
                    thanks to posting nice Krim shield. Yes, this type of shield are questionable in Russia. I actually have one in my collection.
                    But the shield from topic stater has few differences and I try to mark them. Is it fake, bad light, different die, different press I do not know, but differences exist IMO.
                    Regards,
                    Andrei
                    Hi Pascal,
                    I think it's very important to make a decision for starter shield. I would really appreciate, if I can get you opinions (or somebody else) on the difference between two shields (TC and Pascal's group).
                    Thanks in advance,
                    Andrei

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                      #11
                      one normal tabs

                      http://www.emedals.com/collectors-ga...-to-an-officer

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by andrei1774 View Post
                        Hi Pascal,
                        I think it's very important to make a decision for starter shield. I would really appreciate, if I can get you opinions (or somebody else) on the difference between two shields (TC and Pascal's group).
                        Thanks in advance,
                        Andrei
                        Andrei,
                        Here is the same type from my collection also from a vet's grouping.
                        To be honest I really don't see any differences with the shield which started this thread.

                        Kr
                        Pascal
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
                          Andrei,
                          To be honest I really don't see any differences with the shield which started this thread.

                          Kr
                          Pascal
                          Hi Pascal,
                          Both your shields and one from e-medals are identical, no doubt about that.
                          I try to explain , what a difference in two shields (yours and topic starter), using side by side picture.
                          IMO,
                          1. The eagle beak is different.
                          2. difference between the legs and bottom feathers
                          3. 1942 -all numbers is different
                          4. On your example swastika doesn't touch the wreath, on starter example does.
                          5. Bunch difference on semi-island , which you can see on side by side picture.
                          6. Border on left side broken , where part of semi island goes thru the board, etc., etc.,
                          Please let me know , if I am wrong.
                          Best regards,
                          Andrei
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                            #14
                            all 3 shield identical die work

                            topic starter,e-medals and Pascal

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by kraut72 View Post
                              all 3 shield identical die work

                              topic starter,e-medals and Pascal
                              May be I am blind
                              Is this two dates identical?
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