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[pattex]

Hello,
I could make up my collection with a new pair of pilot badges .

On the left a very early S&L example and on the right a piece from Deumer .

best regards
Pattex

[pattex]

the back, not less beautiful...

[Ghocking]

Really nice 👍🏻

[xmember]

Really nice Pattex.

Regards
Rudy

[Tom B]

V ery nice ! Tom

[Nigel N]

Two great early badges!!!
I am not sure which one I like best??
Often we say Deumer is better than S&L, but for the Pilots badge....????
Very close......both really nice!!!!!!!!
-Nigel

[Alex W.]

Two great early badges!!!
I am not sure which one I like best??
Often we say Deumer is better than S&L, but for the Pilots badge....????
Very close......both really nice!!!!!!!!
-Nigel

Both indeed are very nice made badges but as always I prefer the S&L design over the Deumer. I just don't get the hype about Deumer made designs. Don't even get me started about Deumer made RK's....

[Nigel N]

Both indeed are very nice made badges but as always I prefer the S&L design over the Deumer. I just don't get the hype about Deumer made designs. Don't even get me started about Deumer made RK's....

I guess, as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and its personal choice as to which makers pieces we all prefer??
I think "design" and "quality" are 2 separate issues, and I would agree that the design of the Deumer pieces is sometimes not as good as S&L, the CCC being a good example, while the quality of some Deumer pieces is sometimes better than S&L's the DK surely being a good example??
I love 'em all!!!!!!!!!
-Nigel

[Alex W.]

I guess, as they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and its personal choice as to which makers pieces we all prefer??
I think "design" and "quality" are 2 separate issues, and I would agree that the design of the Deumer pieces is sometimes not as good as S&L, the CCC being a good example, while the quality of some Deumer pieces is sometimes better than S&L's the DK surely being a good example??
I love 'em all!!!!!!!!!
-Nigel

I agree on the DK's and of course everyone should have their personal preferrences I just smile to myself everytime I see the excitement and price craze about any Deumer make RK's. no worries though, it's all in good fun.

[Norm F]

Beautiful badges both.

I think the excitement over Deumer results from the rarity more than the quality, and the company history behind it what with Deumer starting out with '57 production, putting out a catalog and then deciding to leave the future market to S&L. When you combine that history with an early piece worn by a veteran it all acts to increase collector interest (for me anyway).

Best regards,
---Norm

[Alex W.]

Beautiful badges both.

I think the excitement over Deumer results from the rarity more than the quality, and the company history behind it what with Deumer starting out with '57 production, putting out a catalog and then deciding to leave the future market to S&L. When you combine that history with an early piece worn by a veteran it all acts to increase collector interest (for me anyway).

Best regards,
---Norm

Norm, that's a very good point made. Rarity actually being more responsible for the excitement rather than design or quality.

[Skyhawk]

Congrats on two beatiful awards!!

As far as Deumer versus S&L, I would say have them both in hand, and then make a judgement. Based upon what I have been able to compare, Deumer exceeds in quality, design characteristics, etc. As Nigel noted, except for the CCC. Why Deumer made without a separate backplate, who knows? In the end, they are all fun to collect, no matter the maker!

Best,

Jeff