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    Originally posted by Tom B View Post
    Hello my Friend ! These last few photos are fantastic ! Very nice addition !!!! Tom
    Thanks Tom, but I got the help of Nick who send the 2 photos.

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      Otto Kumm and Wilhelm Bittrich, 1974
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        SS-Hauptsturmführer Heinz Jürgens

        (Photo credits to Peter van Holsteijn)
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          Otto Engel and Friedrich Hummel, 1989

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            Stabsobermaschinist Heinrich Dammeier, 1989

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              Wachtmeister Kurt Nöbel

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                Pour Le Merite Träger als Ehrengäste beim OdR-Treffen im Jahr 1982

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                  Hi Guys,

                  I have enjoyed this fantastic thread for some time now.

                  I have a question regarding traditions of wear for the different sizes of awards which I thought would be pertinent to this thread since we see all sorts of variations here.

                  Perhaps others could verify but my preliminary impressions regarding tradition of wear are:
                  1) Medal bars (Ordenspangen) - on military uniforms
                  2) Ribbon bars (Bandschnallen) - on military uniforms, i.e. mostly limited to those who served in the Bundeswehr
                  3) Miniature medal bars (Miniaturordenspangen) - black tie (tuxedo) events
                  4) Miniature chains (Frackketten/Ordensketten) - white tie (tails) events or black tie events
                  5) Stick pins (Miniaturen an Nadel) - on civilian suits

                  In practise we see in this thread all sorts of mixing and matching so obviously rules were meant to be broken, but is there an "official" etiquette/regulation defined for these things?

                  Best regards,
                  ---Norm

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                    Originally posted by Norm F View Post
                    Hi Guys,

                    I have enjoyed this fantastic thread for some time now.

                    I have a question regarding traditions of wear for the different sizes of awards which I thought would be pertinent to this thread since we see all sorts of variations here.

                    Perhaps others could verify but my preliminary impressions regarding tradition of wear are:
                    1) Medal bars (Ordenspangen) - on military uniforms
                    2) Ribbon bars (Bandschnallen) - on military uniforms, i.e. mostly limited to those who served in the Bundeswehr
                    3) Miniature medal bars (Miniaturordenspangen) - black tie (tuxedo) events
                    4) Miniature chains (Frackketten/Ordensketten) - white tie (tails) events or black tie events
                    5) Stick pins (Miniaturen an Nadel) - on civilian suits

                    In practise we see in this thread all sorts of mixing and matching so obviously rules were meant to be broken, but is there an "official" etiquette/regulation defined for these things?

                    Best regards,
                    ---Norm
                    Hi Norm, As far as the OdR go's it's a mix match of who wears what. at the 3 reunions I have attended, no specific reg's were in place. I will say this however, OdR black tie events were more formal and it seems that they all "knew" what to wear. Tom

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                      From the OdR membership book:

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                        Originally posted by Sepp45 View Post
                        Walther-Peer Fellgiebel (first on the left)
                        Is he? Looks like Alexander Uhlig

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                          Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
                          Is he? Looks like Alexander Uhlig
                          Yes, Alex Uhlig

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                            Originally posted by GP41 View Post
                            Yes, Alex Uhlig
                            Thought so - fotos I took at crete in 2001:
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                              Originally posted by Mustangstje View Post
                              From the OdR membership book:
                              Thanks Mustangstje. Very interesting. That certainly explains Tom's observation that the members of the Ordensgemeinschaft der Ritterkreuzträger all knew what to wear!

                              As expected, the silk lapels of a Tuxedo were sacrosanct and only regular suits allowed lapel pins. It seems white tie events (with tails) were a 19th century custom and largely abandoned in the 20th century for the more "casual" black tie attire, so "Frackkette" is a somewhat archaic term for the Miniaturkette.

                              Best regards,
                              ---Norm
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                                Originally posted by Gran Sasso View Post
                                Is he? Looks like Alexander Uhlig
                                You are correct Patrick, it's Uhlig

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