Hi guys,
I have a holiday
and will leave in a few hours but I made these pictures last week so it won't take me too long to start the threat. I only have my smartphone with me but I won't be online too much. Otherwise my wife will kill me. And because I planned to post something special at my my 2000th post, I have to use my last replies wisely.
The round needle is by many seen as the earliest needle. But is that true?
I will show my thoughts about the S&L round needle in this thread.
A while ago I checked all my S&L badges and put them in order in time only looking at the die characteristics, the used finish and the way it has been finished. When I looked at the hardware it showed to me that many different needles must have been used simultaniously.
I also found a difference between the round needles on badges from on the left (the earlier S&L's) compared to the round needles on the right (a period where many different needles have been used).
Before I go on I will first try to make clear what method in dating 57's from S&L I use based on what I have seen sofar.
So it might not be 100% accurate because it is still working in progress as I, like most others, still learn every day :
1- Extreme early period 195?-1957. S&L's experimenting phase (like prototypes). Here you will find for example the S&L's made from wartime dies that have been denazified.
2- Very early period: 1958-1959: leftover harware used.
3- Early period: 1960-1965: leftover hardware has been used up and new needles were used.
4- Mid/late/modern: After 1965. Here S&L started with using the open hinge and wide catch and ended with pretty ugly casted things
I measured 10 thick needles and 10 thin needles remember that small differences exists, like the ammount of finish applied).
Thick: between 1,64mm -1,70mm.
Thin: between 1,45mm-1,48mm.
Because a picture sais more than 1000 words, I made a few pictures to illustrate the difference in thickness.
I have a holiday
and will leave in a few hours but I made these pictures last week so it won't take me too long to start the threat. I only have my smartphone with me but I won't be online too much. Otherwise my wife will kill me. And because I planned to post something special at my my 2000th post, I have to use my last replies wisely.The round needle is by many seen as the earliest needle. But is that true?
I will show my thoughts about the S&L round needle in this thread.
A while ago I checked all my S&L badges and put them in order in time only looking at the die characteristics, the used finish and the way it has been finished. When I looked at the hardware it showed to me that many different needles must have been used simultaniously.
I also found a difference between the round needles on badges from on the left (the earlier S&L's) compared to the round needles on the right (a period where many different needles have been used).
Before I go on I will first try to make clear what method in dating 57's from S&L I use based on what I have seen sofar.
So it might not be 100% accurate because it is still working in progress as I, like most others, still learn every day :
1- Extreme early period 195?-1957. S&L's experimenting phase (like prototypes). Here you will find for example the S&L's made from wartime dies that have been denazified.
2- Very early period: 1958-1959: leftover harware used.
3- Early period: 1960-1965: leftover hardware has been used up and new needles were used.
4- Mid/late/modern: After 1965. Here S&L started with using the open hinge and wide catch and ended with pretty ugly casted things
I measured 10 thick needles and 10 thin needles remember that small differences exists, like the ammount of finish applied).
Thick: between 1,64mm -1,70mm.
Thin: between 1,45mm-1,48mm.
Because a picture sais more than 1000 words, I made a few pictures to illustrate the difference in thickness.
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