Riddle - what would you say, what is this?

[novara]

Gents,

I am very sorry for being childish here, just a small riddle: at the first sight, what would you say, what this badge would be?

Andrew

[Tony T-S]

Another miniature? That looks very interesting is it has been made up like the full size badge. It would then be a little like the TR EK I miniature Sepp was showing in the Crosses section.

[Nigel N]

Well, at first glance......
It looks to be a combined Pilot/Observer badge.....
The hardware looks like S&L's....
It appears to be one piece, without a separately applied eagle.....
The pin is mounted horizontally (I think)
-Nigel

[novara]

This is not even German, have a look. I trust this is a Austrian Pilot Badge. Shall we say it is German made?

[Tony T-S]

Ha, look at that. Nicely made by S&L

[Nigel N]

Hi Andrew!
I don't think this is a pilots badge??? Maybe more likely an Aero-Club badge or similar??
The Austrian flag does have red/white/red bands, but horizontally, not vertically.
So maybe for a German association???...i'm sure someone will know!!
How does it compare size-wise with a 57 pilot badge??
-Nigel

[novara]

Actually why I thought it was Austrian: this was part of a bigger collection I have recently purchased. The Souval EK & Wound Badge, the Honour Cross and many other fairly modern / post WW2 awards & badges were part of the group, I would be surprised, if this was the only German item, to be honest.

[Nigel N]

You could well be right about it being Austrian Andrew!!
Souval used S&L hardware on their later pieces.....so it could be one of theirs...
-Nigel

[novara]

By the way it is cca 57 mm wide (at the wings).

[Nigel N]

Here's a similar piece for an Austrian aero club.....
s-l1600 (237).jpg

[novara]

Gents,

Just came across with this page, this is the badge indeed:

https://www.dorotheum.com/de/l/6449553/

Andrew