Help with mei translation

[Pitomnik]

Please help with mei translation

[GHP]

I cannot read the top two kanji ... too cursive. However, the bottom two are definitely:

義正
Yoshimasa

I found a list here of about 7 smiths named Yoshimasa -- and only the first 5 use the kanji 義正. There must be more smiths named Yoshimasa who are not listed; you will have to wait for an expert's opinion.


The third kanji has a "water radical" on the left side:
氵

...so it MIGHT be
源
Minamoto

Referencing the link I posted above (p.378), the 5th Yoshimasa from the bottom has a name that uses "Minamoto"

二郎源義正
Jirō Minamoto Yoshimasa

HOWEVER, I'm not an expert, and I am just looking at the available information and clues available to a basic researcher. Let's wait for our panel of experts to have a look.


Cheers!
--Guy

[Pitomnik]

Many thanks Guy for your help )))
Will wait experts opinions !

[chen]

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[nickn]

From the Mei it looks to be a showato may we see photos of the rest of the sword

[oldhonda]

I can almost see a Seki stamp, but it can be something else entirely. The way the tang is cut, suggests the tang could be fit in the handle of a Kyu-gunto. The strange thing is the tang isn't a clean cut. The line is not straight. That's odd.

[BobI]

It looks like a showato with an artificially aged nakago.

[Pitomnik]

I can made clear photos - when receive this sword.
Now i have only this photos.
Only blade & saya ....no tsuka, tsuba ,seppa.....
I dont think so about "artificially aged nakago".
Cheap blade , for restored ....

[Pitomnik]

[Pitomnik]

[oldhonda]

Nice find! I'm pretty sure this sword was once a Kyu-gunto in its lifetime.

[nickn]

From the hamon it still looks like an oil quenched showato

[BobI]

From the hamon it still looks like an oil quenched showato

With a seki stamp, artificially aged tang and either a duffel bag cut nakago or collector cut nakago, probably the later of the two.
Bob

[oldhonda]

Seki stamp is a maybe. Oil quenched or not is based on the steel requirements. The medium used to quench steel is the mean, not the end.

[nickn]

So your saying Gendiato ,traditionally made blades , are sometimes quenched in oil not water ??