Japanese wall gun help please!!!!

[Steve Flanagan]

Hey guys I'm at a show, this matchlock wall gun just came in its 35 inches long and has silver dragon running down barrel on top. Approximately 80 caliber wood in great shape with both a stamped into wood seal and red laquer kanji. Price is about $1200. Opinions and translation assistance please

[Steve Flanagan]

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[Steve Flanagan]

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[Bob Coleman]

Hi Steve-
Pictures #2 and #3 did not post. From what you describe, the price seems to be at the market. That is based on your description and pictures #1.
Best regards,
Bob

[Steve Flanagan]

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[Steve Flanagan]

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Thanks Bob photos on your email!

[reeder3]

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[GHP]

Hi Steve!

I cannot date the gun ... but I can date the brand to between 1871~1873; the gun is likely older -- could be mid-Edo .... could be older.

1. Letters in orange lacquer:
第四百十一号
Dai yonhyaku juu-ichi gou
No. 411
Dai means "number" and "gou" is the counter - don't ask, it is complicated. In between is the actual number "four-hundred ten-and-one"


2. Brand on both sides:

宇都宮縣
Utsunomiya-ken
Utsunomiya Prefecture

The old pre-1946 kanji for prefecture is used; today it is written as 県

3. Kamon:
A rising-sun fan within an octagon.

I cannot find this on google-image ... the closest I get is "a rising-sun fan within a circle."
日の丸扇 家紋
It might be of the Satake clan, their kamon is the rising sun fan within a circle; and, they have some sort of tie to Utsunomiya Castle, but my Japanese isn't good enough to get a good understanding. If you do a word-search for 宇都宮 (Utsunomiya), you'll find the one citation I've mentioned:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%BD...AB%B9%E6%B0%8F


The Utsunomiya clan used the three comma design, so I doubt the gun is tied directly to the former clan:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE...AE%AE%E6%B0%8F

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The reason I can say the brand dates between 1871 ~ 1873 is what I found

in Japanese Wiki:
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AE...AE%AE%E7%9C%8C

1871年（明治4年）
7月14日 - 廃藩置県によって宇都宮藩が廃止され、宇都宮県となる。
11月14日 - 第1次府県再編により、宇都宮県、大田原県、黒羽県、烏山県、茂木県が統合され、下野国北部に改めて宇都宮 県が発足。県庁は河内郡宇都宮の梅が丘に設置。なお、日光県のうち旧喜連川藩領も編入した。


1873年（明治6年）6月15日 - 栃木県に合併。同日宇都宮県廃止。


1871 (Meiji 4 years)
July 14 - According to the "Hai-han Chi-ken" [the enforced establishment of prefectures in place of feudal domains (廃藩置県; Hai-han Chi-ken) in July 14, 1871] Utsunomiya clan domain will be abolished become Utsunomiya prefecture.
November 14 - Utsunomiya, Odawara, Kuroba, Karasuyama, and Motegi prefectures are integrated by the first prefecture reorganization, Utsunomiya re-established in the northern area of Shimono-ken. The prefectural government is set up in Umeagaoka, Utsunomiya, Kawachi-gun. In addition, the former Kitsuregawa clan region of Nikko prefecture was also incorporated.

1873 (Meiji 6) June 15 - Merger with Tochigi prefecture [that's were it is today]. Abolished Utsunomiya prefecture the same day.

So that brand could only have been used between 14 July 1871~15 June 1873.

Found out about the Utsuomiya clan in English:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utsunomiya_Domain



Cheers,
--Guy

[Sengoku]

You might find useful stuff here....
http://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/forum...hinawaj%C5%AB/

[Steve Flanagan]

Wall Gun

Thank you, great site didnt know they did anything other than sword related

[Steve Flanagan]

Tanegashima

With a little TLC she did clean up nicely! Thanks guys will post on other forum as well as Id like to get trigger mechanism functioning.