Question on Reading Flag Kanji

[GHP]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Bill,

I'm afraid I cannot pinpoint the shrine/temple from the stamp as the seal-script does not apear to be a name and the circumference design appears to be merely filigree.. To me, the two kanji between the sword looks like:
御璽
Gyoji
Privy Seal / Royal Seal


Obviously it is not the Emperor's official seal ... perhaps "gyoji" can also mean "Honorable Seal"? 御 "go/o" is used in such phrases as 御心配する "Goshinpai suru" [honored worring about me]; 御両親 "Go Ryoushin" [your (honored) parents]; 御電話 O-Denwa [your (honorable) telephone]; 御手洗 O-te arai [honored toilet]; etc. Though in most cases the kanji 御 is replaced by the hiragana お O~.


--Guy

[Bill D.]

Thank you, Guy. Very interesting regarding the seal. Sounds like a bit of a mystery, then, as to its exact meaning.

I am, again, very grateful for your help!

[Nick Komiya]

Guy is very much on course and only requires a slight nudge. The Emperor's signet and handwritten name as required in launching a new law or, as I have shown, new military equipment is called Gyomei (name) Gyoji (Seal). It is used like " the emperor is required to affix his Gyomei-Gyoji on an ordinance". However, it is read Gyoji only when referring to the Imperial seal and when it is the seal of a shrine like this thread, it is read "Mishirushi", not Gyoji, although the kanji is identical. The seal showing a sword would most likely mean that the Shrine is named after a sword like the several Tsurugi Jinja (Sword Shrine) or Ohtsurugi Jinja (Great Sword Shrine), but which one will have to remain a mystery without other geographical pointers.

[GHP]

...The Emperor's signet and handwritten name as required in launching a new law or, as I have shown, new military equipment is called Gyomei (name) Gyoji (Seal). It is used like " the emperor is required to affix his Gyomei-Gyoji on an ordinance". However, it is read Gyoji only when referring to the Imperial seal and when it is the seal of a shrine like this thread, it is read "Mishirushi", not Gyoji, although the kanji is identical. The seal showing a sword would most likely mean that the Shrine is named after a sword like the several Tsurugi Jinja (Sword Shrine) or Ohtsurugi Jinja (Great Sword Shrine), but which one will have to remain a mystery without other geographical pointers.

Thanks Nick -- you are a deep well of knowledge.

Likewise, I am aware the same kanji, 御, is used when talking about the Emperor's speech 御言 mikoto -- does 御言 also transfer to Biblical "words of God"? I seem to recall 御言 outside Imperial useage.

Thanks!
--Guy

[Bill D.]

Nick....
Just as with Guy, I very much appreciate your assistance and your insights!
Thank you!

[Nick Komiya]

Guy, you must mean Mikotoba　御言葉 as used in the Christian Bilble. The Japanese language used in religion is also strange as those that relate to the Emperor's deeds, as they had to devise superhuman superlatives for both, yet keep them separate, so by the different pronouns and verbs used, you could tell whether it was the Christian God or the Emperor addressing you.

[GHP]

Guy, you must mean Mikotoba　御言葉 as used in the Christian Bilble. ...

Aha! That's it. Thanks Nick.

--Guy

[Nick Komiya]

I couldn't find any match, but here's the search I did for the Tsurugi Shrine Stamp
https://www.google.de/search?q=%E7%A...9C%B1%E5%8D%B0