Tokubetsu joint

[gunto]

Does anyone know about the combined Army/Navy air groups that where put together late in the war when both groups were running low on pilots.
And that they schould have used a navy dirk with polished same and a star as mekugi ,instead of the sakura.


The dirk is shown in the book "Japanese pattern dirks" the banks collection page. 10-11.

Heres another dirk with same features.

[gunto]

Could it be early NLF ?

I have no doubt that it was born with the star mekugi and I will consider this dirk as very scarce.
I will take some close ups when I have it hand.

Here showing both Stars.

[Jareth]

Without any serious provenance it's just speculation. With a star I am curious why you'd think there was any NLF connection? Book example aside, if I saw it my first reaction would be stars were GI added

[gunto]

Without any serious provenance it's just speculation. With a star I am curious why you'd think there was any NLF connection? Book example aside, if I saw it my first reaction would be stars were GI added

Looking forward to take it apart and to see if the Stars are made the same way as the sakuras.

Do You have the book from K. Banks?

[gunto]

Air force or perhaps it belonged to an officer of a naval landing force which was attached to a land unit?

[Jareth]

No I don't have that book. What proof/ facts does the auther provide? Is anything similar in the two other books by Gregory & Fuller or Dawson ?

[gunto]

Its not in G & F's book.
Here from Banks book.






This is the one I have on the way. It also has the diamond w/ N and the same looking handle. Same features.

[Jareth]

Interesting. The diamond with N I assume you've not seen on any standard navy daggers? The author admits it's specualtion regarding attribution. Can you perhaps contact him to inquire as to how he came to this assumption?

[gunto]

Interesting. The diamond with N I assume you've not seen on any standard navy daggers? The author admits it's specualtion regarding attribution. Can you perhaps contact him to inquire as to how he came to this assumption?

I have another dirk with same stamp.
I try contacting him.
Also thinking of Ohmura's gunto site ,I think of contacting him too.

[Nick Komiya]

Sounds more and more like the Tokubetstu joint was something he had smoked.
Another irresponsible author, exhaling his trigger happy fantasy for a fancy quick caption that
gives collectors a boner? Same smocky den from where suicide boat helmets come from ?
So what unit are we talking about exactly?

[gunto]

Sounds more and more like the Tokubetstu joint was something he had smoked.
Another irresponsible author, exhaling his trigger happy fantasy for a fancy quick caption that
gives collectors a boner? Same smocky den from where suicide boat helmets come from ?
So what unit are we talking about exactly?

LOL.....
The dirks workmanship and materiales ,dosnt either looks like the late war dirks.
So I dont by that story either from the author.
Thats why I think it might be early NLF army personal joining the NLF.
Just a Wild guess.

[Nick Komiya]

Tonight I'm stuck in a hospital bed, so no possibility to do any research , but you know that something like that can only be established through an ordinance with an imperial signature?
The dagger was the sacred "diploma" in a solemn ceremony. It is like changing a Totenkopf ring to a Smilely ring to give to ex-army SS men.
The German dagger world has Atwood characters that helped to maintain post war Solingen employment. Wasn't there a Seabee unit in Seki doing the rare Tojo naval dagger for those who bought more than a dozen Tojo flags?

[GeorgeP]

Sorry to hear you are in the hospital. I hope things are on the mend!
(I was in a hospital in Frankfurt once for a couple of nights--lesson learned: Don't eat guacamole while in Frankfurt!)




Tom

[GHP]

Tonight I'm stuck in a hospital bed, so no possibility to do any research , but you know that something like that can only be established through an ordinance with an imperial signature?
The dagger was the sacred "diploma" in a solemn ceremony. It is like changing a Totenkopf ring to a Smilely ring to give to ex-army SS men.
The German dagger world has Atwood characters that helped to maintain post war Solingen employment. Wasn't there a Seabee unit in Seki doing the rare Tojo naval dagger for those who bought more than a dozen Tojo flags?

Sounds like you have some strong meds!! (^__^) I like the smiley-face Totenkopf ring idea.


Hope you get well soon.

--Guy

[Nick Komiya]

I have no such problems, as avocado and tomatoes are already lethal enough to me due to
the extra-high potassium content. I can go direct to the morge skipping the Krankenhaus.