Hi guys just found this one ...
I need you help to know what pickel it is exactly ..
Thanks for your help !
Martin
I need you help to know what pickel it is exactly ..
Thanks for your help !
Martin
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joiComment
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With the white metal wappen, I believe this pickelhaube is for Pionier-Batallion nr.14, garrison at Kehl, part of XIV Armee Korps. It was raised in 1850.
Bob ShoafComment
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Thank you bob ..
What about the missing devise ??
Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant TapatalkComment
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Hello!
That´s strange!
The crossed screw-plate normally was worn by Drag.Rgt.20, 21 and 22.
But they had a cornered visor.
Baden had plain "Pickel", not this kind...Comment
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All is untouched correct period applied seems not to be a Frankenstein ...Comment
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I agree.by member The Prussian:
Hello!
That´s strange!
The crossed screw-plate normally was worn by Drag.Rgt.20, 21 and 22.
But they had a cornered visor.
Baden had plain "Pickel", not this kind...
Spike would have been used on either a Bavarian helmet, or a Mecklenburg-Schwerin Dragoon Regiment #18 helmet. Not sure why the fluted spike is on this Baden pickelhaube.
The Baden front plate does not have a motto on the bottom ribbon or banner area. Maybe a reservist cross is missing from the front plate?
Sometimes former owners (not the original soldier) did strange things with these helmets maybe 70, 80, 90 years ago after the war ended. We never really know for sure why wrong parts end up on helmets after the war ended. In the USA we had tens of thousands of captured helmets shipped over from warehouses that were re-assembled incorrectly in the USA with parts that were meant for other helmets. The people unpacking the helmets and parts did not know what part went on which helmet. I will try later today to find a photo of two of this un-packaging process of the "war bond" helmets as they are referred to in the USA. These are helmets that were given away to people who bought war bonds to help finance the war.by member Martin Guerre:
All is untouched correct period applied seems not to be a Frankenstein ...
Best Regards,
AlanComment
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Have to agree 100% with Alan, put together at some point.
Just my opinion
JamesComment
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Ok thank you,i have open mind of course but and interesting point of view but not sure you're right on this one ...
But it's not because you don't know exactly what sort of helmet it is that we can say it's a frankenstein ...too much easy way when we don't know isn't it !!
We don't know what we have so it's a wrong one ..too much easy !
It was never disassembled and a put together for sure...
And you don't know what we have but what do you think on this one stand in a great huge collection and the same as mine ?
Just to say that when i don't know something about something i just say i don't know it's better !Last edited by martin guerre; 04-17-2017, 10:58 AM.Comment
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sorry, you asked for an opinion or ID and you got it...
JamesComment
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IMO, Alan and the others got it right. Is it correct to have Baden cockades on both sides?
ChuckComment
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Yes, I agree with James. Sorry, you asked for an opinion and you got it.
The exact way this helmet is currently configured makes it a helmet for NO German State. There is No Reference Book in the world that I am aware of that will have a helmet in it that is configured as your helmet is configured.
Your helmet has a Bavarian or Mecklenburg spike on it.
Baden did not use fluted spikes for enlisted men or for line officers. How much clearer does the response need to be?
If your helmet had a smooth silver spike on it, and a square cut visor, your helmet would be for Baden Dragoon Regiment 19, 20, or 21. The photos you have provided clearly show your helmet does not have a square cut visor.
Your helmet can not speak to us verbally, and tell us why it is configured incorrectly. We all wish it could tell us why it is assembled incorrectly.
Best Regards,
AlanComment
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Interesting debate and funny how you sniped a good untouched and correct spiked helmet ...
Yes i asked for opinion and thank you for your reply
When i posted it i was not knowing what it was but now i know what this helmet is and i know it is all correctly made i just done my job and all is ok !
Just want to say at all that you want to make a good helmet bad because you don't know what it is but i just want to say that YOU ARE JUST ALL SEARCHING IN THE WRONG WAY AND THAT WHY YOU'RE ALL WRONG !
It is not assembled incorrectly....
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