The "Odd" M16 Camo

[Hoss]

Thanks Hans
I never knew that. I looked in my ref. and noticed Si are down as having made 64,s. I did,nt know they were so rare either! Allways willing to learn, very interesting.
In that case cant wait for Chuck,s photos.

Cheers
Eric

[ironcross1]

Thanks Raymond. Is everything ok from that 7.0 earthquake over there?

Chuck

Hey mate , yeh im up in the Noth Island , it was still a good one where we are but no damage , they got a bit down in the south though , all is good mate , take care , cheers Raymond

[C. Roelens]

Eric, knowing that the odd Bell L with squared lugs occasionally shows up is important. The short flat visor, overall shape and pronounced flare of the rim are typical of Bell L helmets. The thicker than normal front liner pin heads are also unique to that maker. None of the other makers of size 64 shells came close in form, with the possible exception of some Kerkmanns.

If a Si64 shell turned up, that would be earth-shattering. It would also be puzzling that they weren't more common considering that size 64 was the most frequently issued size, followed closely by 66.
Hans

Hans,

I understand the characteristics of the Bell L as you described above, however; can you tell me more about the square lugs, and why it's important? The Bell L is noted for its rounded lugs and I'm not totally understanding the importance of the squared lugs.

Also, why do you think the S.i.64 is so rare?

Thanks in advance.

Chuck

[C. Roelens]

congrats, I was already convinced when i saw the pics on ebay, and now it is confirmed.
As i said before, pity he didn't send to europe

Thank You. The seller told me that someone overseas offered him 1k for this helmet. Even before his auction ended I told him he should accept that offer and ship overseas... He still refused to do so.

Chuck

[Hans K.]

Hans,

I understand the characteristics of the Bell L as you described above, however; can you tell me more about the square lugs, and why it's important? The Bell L is noted for its rounded lugs and I'm not totally understanding the importance of the squared lugs.

Also, why do you think the S.i.64 is so rare?

Thanks in advance.

Chuck

I was pointing out that most but not all Bell L helmets have rounded lugs. This was in answer to a question posted by Eric.

I don't think size 64 Silesia shells are rare. From my experience, they don't exist. As far as I'm aware, only Thale made shells in all sizes, and up til now I've only seen size 62 and 66 Silesia shells. If yours turns out to be a Si 64, that would be extremely exciting.

Hans

[C. Roelens]

I was pointing out that most but not all Bell L helmets have rounded lugs. This was in answer to a question posted by Eric.

I don't think size 64 Silesia shells are rare. From my experience, they don't exist. As far as I'm aware, only Thale made shells in all sizes, and up til now I've only seen size 62 and 66 Silesia shells. If yours turns out to be a Si 64, that would be extremely exciting.

Hans

got it... thanks again.

[langemarck]

Thank You. The seller told me that someone overseas offered him 1k for this helmet. Even before his auction ended I told him he should accept that offer and ship overseas... He still refused to do so.

Chuck

don't worry, it wasn't me I always play it fair, an auction is an auction what me concerns.

PS. I never would pay such an amount for a WO1 camo neither

[PlaceOfBayonets]

Chuck the Chin strap is in pretty bad shape condition wise. Would you treat something like that?

W.

[Hoss]

Chuck the Chin strap is in pretty bad shape condition wise. Would you treat something like that?

W.

Heh W
Check out that stuff (ballistol) I posted in my funky bayo frog post. A friend in Germany recommended it to me. He said a lot of museums use it and its available over here. Buy some and if your gear falls apart the rest of us will know not to use it. Thanks mate.

Eric

[C. Roelens]

Chuck the Chin strap is in pretty bad shape condition wise. Would you treat something like that?

W.

I know, but it's solid and original to this helmet. I'll leave it just like it is. In the 80's I treated some of my leather with a "very light" coat of Pecard. It still looks good today. Some collectors will not touch this stuff anymore because they claim it left a white film on their leather over the years. That never happened to any of my leather I treated 30 years ago. IMO, if properly used on some leathers I don't see a problem.

Chuck

[C. Roelens]

Heh W
Check out that stuff (ballistol) I posted in my funky bayo frog post. A friend in Germany recommended it to me. He said a lot of museums use it and its available over here. Buy some and if your gear falls apart the rest of us will know not to use it. Thanks mate.

Eric

[ww1czechlegion]

Great Helmet, Chuck. Congratulations on aquiring it!!!

All the Best,

Alan

[C. Roelens]

Great Helmet, Chuck. Congratulations on aquiring it!!!

All the Best,

Alan

Thanks Alan.

[Hoss]

Chuck
Did you find out the maker yet. Is it a Bell-L for sure?
What,s thou waiting for matey?

Eric

[C. Roelens]

Chuck
Did you find out the maker yet. Is it a Bell-L for sure?
What,s thou waiting for matey?

Eric

Hans is correct - Bell L, with squared lugs. My apologies for the tardy response.

Chuck