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    #2
    Gents
    I was the high bidder on this lid before the seller pulled it. What do you think?
    I was going to give it a good hands on, it had a grace period.

    Eric
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      #3
      IMO the paint scheme is of the period. If I found this helmet (going be these photos) I would tend to beleive that it was doughboy painted or perhaps souvineer painted in the early post WWI period for tourist sales.

      The colors used, paint texture and overall impression is not what I feel is right or at least typical on the actual WWI German camo painted examples that I have verified. In the end it is a judgement call.

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        #4
        To me, it's a classic beauty. I have one in identical colors that came right from the doughboy 35 years ago. I don't understand why so many people get hung up on "correct" colors. Some seem to think if the colors don't match the regulations called out in Baer's book, it must be a postwar painted souvenier piece. While I'm sure some were painted up postwar, I maintain they represent a tiny minority of camo helmets.
        Steve

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          #5
          Originally posted by ottodog8 View Post
          To me, it's a classic beauty. I have one in identical colors that came right from the doughboy 35 years ago. I don't understand why so many people get hung up on "correct" colors. Some seem to think if the colors don't match the regulations called out in Baer's book, it must be a postwar painted souvenier piece. While I'm sure some were painted up postwar, I maintain they represent a tiny minority of camo helmets.
          Steve
          Steve,

          1st time I've seen you post here... welcome. If you've got one like the one being discussed here I would like to see it... please start a new thread. I've picked up many WWI helmets directly from the Veteran's in the 60's, and Family members thereafter... doesn't mean there will not be a repaint to be had. Baer's book is an excellent reference to use coupled with years of experience... the book alone will not suffice.

          Chuck
          Last edited by C. Roelens; 05-29-2010, 10:05 PM.

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            #6
            This is 100% period, I cannot believe there is even a doubt on this one.......

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              #7
              Better photos would have been nice on this killer helmet, but I think it's legit.

              Chuck

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                #8
                Fixed photo and gave credit.

                I can't say for sure only because I don't come across such original nice examples as that in my time collecting so it looks like it's too good to be true but since it has a lot going for it sometimes it IS true.

                Is that one yours Eric? Ken at German Helmets inc. has one a lot like it seen below.
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                  #9
                  What I should have added was this, in both cases of the helmet in question and the one I posted that looks the same type, I think both would be possible to re create convincingly by a helmet faker today. That is the part that would make me nervous.

                  W.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by PlaceOfBayonets View Post
                    Is that one yours Eric?
                    No its not William
                    I put a big bid in and was willing to take a risk it being legit. I think the first photo put some bidders off.
                    The other pictures look ok to me. Iam really upset, I know an owner can do what he wants (its his piece) and end the auction but I will not be wasting my time with this seller from now on, that,s for sure.

                    Eric

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by 704hoss55 View Post
                      No its not William
                      I put a big bid in and was willing to take a risk it being legit. I think the first photo put some bidders off.
                      The other pictures look ok to me. Iam really upset, I know an owner can do what he wants (its his piece) and end the auction but I will not be wasting my time with this seller from now on, that,s for sure.

                      Eric
                      I missed that one. Was in on Ebay germany?

                      W.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by PlaceOfBayonets View Post
                        I missed that one. Was in on Ebay germany?

                        W.
                        William,

                        http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

                        Eric

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                          #13
                          Its very possible that ebayer '1916camo' made the seller an offline offer.

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                            #14
                            Totaly agree with Phild

                            Originally posted by phild View Post
                            IMO the paint scheme is of the period. If I found this helmet (going be these photos) I would tend to beleive that it was doughboy painted or perhaps souvineer painted in the early post WWI period for tourist sales.

                            The colors used, paint texture and overall impression is not what I feel is right or at least typical on the actual WWI German camo painted examples that I have verified. In the end it is a judgement call.
                            And the last are a fake (actual thin paint).

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                              #15
                              Could have been anyone who made the offer. Say Eric, it's the sellers helmet like you said. Make him your own offer. maybe it will be higher then the one that got it pulled.

                              W.

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