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    M16 camo, happy discovery

    I've had this one for two or three years. But it wasn't until this weekend that I saw something . . . a unit marking.

    I was showing the helmet to Ty Smith, and he was holding it out in sunlight, and discovered some numbers: 5./118 with two roman IIs underneath the 18. Picture attached.

    I had seen the man's signature on the skirt, written in the older German handwriting, and was able to make out "Wehr. Wasser," but I never saw the numbers until the light hit them.

    No big deal, but it's always nice to learn something about the stuff you own!
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    closeup of numbers

    closeup of numbers. This picture was taken in bright sunlight, believe it or not.
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      outside

      outside
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        Dave, great discovery!! Nice cammo!! I love the wear! Nice M16 liner too! I have an standard fieldgray M16 that the same thing happened. There was no mention of any ID until I got it and found very similar writing in mine. Almost same type of ink!! Nice find! Mike.

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          #5
          Have you been to specsavers ? Nice helmet I always hold my lids up to all sorts of light and all sorts of angles . Rob
          God please take justin bieber and gave us dio back

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            Space savers?

            Hi, Robb:

            What's spacesavers?

            The other time I discovered something in sunlight was a slight inscription in an M40 liner: "PAK Zug"

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              #7
              The "Wehr." must be short for Wehrmann, as in Landwehr. 5.Komp. II.Batl. I.R.118 (Hessian).

              Chip

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                #8
                Very attractive camo helmet. I've had similar revelations occur once or twice over the years.

                What is the maker stamp on this one, possibly Q? Si.?

                Hans

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                  Maker

                  Thanks for the comments, guys. Hans, it's a Q 66.

                  And Chip, thanks for the info. I had figured out Wehrmann, 5th company, 118th hessian, but didn't know what to make of the roman numeral beneath.

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                    #10
                    Very nice original camo. There is no substitute for outside sunlight when looking over any collectable.

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                      #11
                      I seem to feel it says 5/ 148 with the name wrasser.(wehr, would that be wehrner) I have one or two written in with pencil(one austrian)also a german one , with american name scratched into the same areas.

                      Arent you glad you left it alone, and didnt have to clean it up to look perfect as many would , and do as many who never see, and ruin such marks with obsessive compulsive cleanliness.

                      Also appears to me ,like it was used by two soldiers , one looks like bilnffzer in the middle back, with his unit rubbed out just below, as maybe he was killed, and this other guy maybe lost his own , and grabbed this one , and possibly remarked it with pencil so he wouldnt lose it. Just a thought. I got a crick in my neck trying to read it,so maybe you can repost another rotated shot just for effect....so I could be all wet. I also imagined a smaller 88 next to the 5 to the right but smaller,like 588/ 148 , or maybe 588/ 6/48?? but then again , you may want to handle it by not touching too much on the written areas. Maybe ill see if i have any shots to show,as it could be a great thread with helmets with writing inside... but regardless..thats a great lid. An honest camo'd stahlhelm we all would be proud to own. maybe a little indoor lighting manipulation inside the house, or thru a photoshop program , may bring it out better. Kudos.
                      Last edited by juoneen; 02-11-2009, 02:36 AM.

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                        Originally posted by juoneen View Post
                        I seem to feel it says 5/ 148 with the name wrasser.(wehr, would that be wehrner) I have one or two written in with pencil(one austrian)also a german one , with american name scratched into the same areas.

                        Arent you glad you left it alone, and didnt have to clean it up to look perfect as many would , and do as many who never see, and ruin such marks with obsessive compulsive cleanliness.

                        Also appears to me ,like it was used by two soldiers , one looks like bilnffzer in the middle back, with his unit rubbed out just below, as maybe he was killed, and this other guy maybe lost his own , and grabbed this one , and possibly remarked it with pencil so he wouldnt lose it. Just a thought. I got a crick in my neck trying to read it,so maybe you can repost another rotated shot just for effect....so I could be all wet. I also imagined a smaller 88 next to the 5 to the right but smaller,like 588/ 148 , or maybe 588/ 6/48?? but then again , you may want to handle it by not touching too much on the written areas. Maybe ill see if i have any shots to show,as it could be a great thread with helmets with writing inside... but regardless..thats a great lid. An honest camo'd stahlhelm we all would be proud to own. maybe a little indoor lighting manipulation inside the house, or thru a photoshop program , may bring it out better. Kudos.
                        I've seen Werner spelled Wernher before, but never Werhner, unless it's a family (last) name. Also, the name written in the old cursive on the rear flange is in fact "Wasser", just like the printed name.

                        Hans

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                          Thanks again

                          I typically don't clean anything off a helmet, and yes, in this case, I'm very glad I didn't try!

                          As for the numbers, it's clearly a 118. In the light, you can see the European-style "1"s next to each other, and a clear distinction between the 118 and the II underneath.

                          The name in the back of the skirt is Wasser's signature in the old-style German handwriting, so it matches with the printed name.

                          Thanks for the comments!

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                            #14
                            Nice camo hemet!I had one just like it years ago.

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