Whats the missing medal??

[dragnet]

Nice little group with its end medal missing, mate of mine thinks WW2 KVK but im leaning towards WW1 veterans service medal

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Unfortunately your friend is right.

According to regulations the KVK ribbon should be placed in second place after the EK.

[Don D.]

Kyffhauserbund medal

https://www.google.com/search?q=kyff..._PKDmEzGS204M:

[evilmike]

All the Kyffhauserbund medal ribbons I can see online are very thin banding, the medal bar looks spot on for kvk ribbon

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Kyffhauserbund medal

https://www.google.com/search?q=kyff..._PKDmEzGS204M:

Yes could also be the case. In placement it would make more sense than the KVK. The added swords are also more likely on the KM. Although it being removed speaks more for a denazified bar and therefore KVK. It would be interested to place both medals on the bar to see which one fits better.

[Dansson]

Kyffhauserbund medal

https://www.google.com/search?q=kyff..._PKDmEzGS204M:

I agree.

If it was a KVK we would expect to see a Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer aswell.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

After looking closer at the ribbons of the both KVK and KM and the bar in question - I am changing my mind and going with Kyffhauser.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

I agree.

If it was a KVK we would expect to see a Ehrenkreuz für Frontkämpfer aswell.

Would be logical.

[tompress]

Yes, the Kyffhäuser Denkmünze is most suitable at this place.

But I am not sure, if this is the right KDM ribbon - may be the KVK ribbon was used (or replaced). Also the swords are in later style, like used for KVK or Hindy ribbon bars. Swords for KDM were rather thin., with long grips.

greetings
Tomasz

[Sevrin]

the added swords are also more likely on the km

+1

[dragnet]

Thank you gents, KM it is then Just a small question, can anyone tell if the Zahringen order is first or second class, im pressuming its the colour of wash to the background design behind the swords

[Don D.]

2d class.

[dragnet]

2d class.

Cheers Don