Ek2 case on estand

[morel5000]

Hi All,

I contacted the seller, and he didn't mind me posting this for discussion.

Is everyone comfortable with this case?

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=838360

pics from the thread!!

[Jelle M.]

I like it.
There are many variations in imperial ek2 cases.
The cross on the lid could be original or added afterwards.
Difficult to judge from pics only.
But for me the case itself is a fine original.

[morel5000]

Thought it opened a little odd on the side!

[lolman1c]

Thought it opened a little odd on the side!

Hmmm, I know what you mean. I'd like to see more photos especially with the EK2 out of the box. The only boxes I have seen in person do look similar to this but open from the top. Although again, from these pictures it looks period and the wear seems authentic.

[Montgomery Burns]

so far all cases with glued on ek on the top I seen where Frankensteins so far.

this one ,,,,is no better .


K

[Montgomery Burns]

ps ,,,,,

its a joke ,,if one cares to look carefully and uses his brain ...

its so obvious ,,who See's it ?

common boys ,,a challenge ,,who See's it ?


regards kay

[lolman1c]

I think I am blind.... but the cross just looks like something I would print off on my computer and cut out... not something given out by the government in the early 20th century.... It isn't even in the center of the box... The fonts look wrong on the EK box as well. XD There are also fold marks on the cross itself, showing it might have come off something....

[avensis2000]

I have bought a lot of stuff while being a bit drunk - sometimes I have been happy with result, sometimes not. With this I would not even give it a try - no facts - just intuition. Cross is good but the case make me nervous even though what the condition (of me) would be - and it's not the sharpest feeling with me at the moment....)

I have never seen a "confirmed real" boxes like that before, so I just wonder why would this be the first one or have I missed something...? Even with the most optimistic way of thinking - box might be somewhat ok, but that "sticker" on top of it is not ok in my opinion.

You can probably find a good case + cross with similar price a bit later and can feel good about it - with this it will not happen most likely.

[schönbeck]

IMO the cross on top of the lid is fine. Usually seen on photoalbums etc. These are pretty fragile and corners are often lose due to dry glue. This will also explain the folded corners. If I remember correctly similar crosses can also be found in cigarette albums.

Case is good but for something else. The insert is replaced and adapted for the ek2.

So the questions is when this was done? I'm 99.99% sure it's done post ww2.

[Montgomery Burns]

IMO the cross on top of the lid is fine. Usually seen on photoalbums etc. These are pretty fragile and corners are often lose due to dry glue. This will also explain the folded corners. If I remember correctly similar crosses can also be found in cigarette albums.

Case is good but for something else. The insert is replaced and adapted for the ek2.

So the questions is when this was done? I'm 99.99% sure it's done post ww2.

I can answer that ..

its obvious wen this etui was frankensteined
there where no longer original cheap etui's for Iron crosses available in the official shops and jewelers stores or left overs ,inheritance or elsewhere ,,,

a possible supplier of left overs original type's would have dried out around 1960 .

looking at this case its obvious
that the maker of this etui was even no longer informed about how such an medal etui should look like and work ..
otherwise he would never chosen to make this cross open side wise .

what makes this etui a later then 1960's even later then 1990.

because
its a thing of the 2010 era of ebay dealers to glue Iron crosses on etui's .
and talked in to originality with vicious determination and no scruple's at all .

is one of the most stupid Frankenstein attempts I ever seen

K

[Jelle M.]

I have seen & handled more ek2 cases in the past that open from the side,
there are so many variations and private purchase cases it's hard
to tell with confidence they don't exist.
Everything looks fine, the exterior, locking device, holder for the ribbon and to be honest, the insert doesn't look replaced at all. It fits perfectly and no damage can be seen on the carton border.
For me a perfectly original case, no doubt.
I admit, it looks dubious with the added cross. Could be that the original recipient added it... who knows...

[lolman1c]

I'm leaning more towards Burns... I have so many boxes like this from ww1 to post ww2, it would be easy for me to replace the inside. Infact this looks exactly like a 19th century box for silverware i own.

[schönbeck]

Nightstalker, I agree with you that there are plenty of versions. I have had tons of them.

If I would have bought this from private I would say that it was done by the family or so. Now I can't tell, escpecially since I haven't seen it in hand.

But I do also agree with mr Burns that the open from the side version makes no sense. That's why I'm very sure it was meant for something else.

[wayne gosley]

For what it is worth, from my experience, I agree with Nightstalkers comments, about the case, I think the iron cross sticker on the outside of case is a period sticker, , when added? a lot of dude case with stickers since 2010.
I agree with Kay comment, as mostly I am also more comfortable with cases with a impressed iron crosses, then stickers, as Kay has mentioned.
Cheers
Wayne

[mp409mm]

I think that the case could be an original case, but somebody to make it more attractive pasted the cross the wrong way, because there are cased iron crosses with the hinge on the long side of the case even with the cross placed horizontal .
Alf.