Cross EK2 1870

[boch_62]

Hi,
Please tell me - what do you think about this cross?

THanks in advance.

Regards
Jarek

[Montgomery Burns]

its a Iron cross you will not find on period veteran pictures .

so far all legitimate crosses are,,,,,,,,,,,, to find on period veteran pictures ..

so that is the problem with this type of cross ,,

until someone finds a period picture with this one on it ,,,who knows what this cross is ?

I see them as fake


regards k



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[streptile]

Duplicate piece from between c. 1890 and 1930.

[boch_62]

O.K. I understand. Thank you very much for your help

Jarek

[kid74]

This is a scan of a page from the book of Konstantin Nikolaev&

WR Kirill

[streptile]

This is a scan of a page from the book of Konstantin Nikolaev& WR Kirill

He seems to have taken most of his information from this forum. I posted that image here years ago. Is he a member here? Love to get that book.

[kid74]

He seems to have taken most of his information from this forum. I posted that image here years ago. Is he a member here? Love to get that book.

I guess he has the opportunity to follow events in this forum.

WR Kirill

[kid74]

He seems to have taken most of his information from this forum. I posted that image here years ago. Is he a member here? Love to get that book.

If you have this information, why you wrote earlier that this product is duplicate?

WR Kirill

[kid74]

This is a scan of a page from the book of Konstantin Nikolaev&

WR Kirill

For information. Writing books on faleristics Germany for Konstantin Nikolaev not a business but a hobby. Each edition has a circulation of no more than 20 – 40 books.

In five years published about eighteen books of German faleristics by Konstantin Nikolaev , some how by EK1, multivolume.

WR Kirill

[morel5000]

Interesting books! From what year is the catalog?

[Montgomery Burns]

interesting ,,,information ,,,

but the catalog it is not legitimizing the cross to be period .

it just shows a drawing of an iron cross with a big hump,,its about the only thing resembling the cross ( starter ) shown here




regards k

[kid74]

interesting ,,,information ,,,

but the catalog it is not legitimizing the cross to be period .


regards k

Sorry, please explain more precisely what do you mean?

WR Kirill

[Montgomery Burns]

the drawing you see in the advertisement shows a big hump.

so naturally everybody would think ,,hey,,,, thats it .
drawing of the tread starting cross,,,,,, put it in the catalog

But,,,

the frame in the drawing is a narrow frame and dos not look like the one shown in the start of the tread ,,,(who has a wider frame)

also the crown dos not look like the crown we see in the cross shown ..
the rest of the characteristics of the core decorations on the drawing do not seem to be the same to ...
like a very small W ?

so ,,,,,,,,,,,,,coincidence .

k

[kid74]

But it is not a photograph of the cross, the only figure of the project. Isn't it?

Importantly, we see that such a project cross existed (IMO). It was not a souvenir.

WR Kirill

[Montgomery Burns]

what I am saying is ..

you want the cross like the one in the catalog drawings ..

you looking for a big hump
you want a very narrow schinkel frame .
A small W
and two different Crowns designs on the back and front.
a complete different 3 in the 1813 design





regards kay