Cross EK2 1870

[kid74]

what I am saying is ..

you want the cross like the one in the catalog drawings ..

you looking for a big hump
you want a very narrow schinkel frame .
A small W
and two different Crowns designs on the back and front.
a complete different 3 in the 1813 design

regards kay

How many drawings of awards is absolutely identical to the real products?

WR Kirill

[Montgomery Burns]

But it is not a photograph of the cross, the only figure of the project. Isn't it?

Importantly, we see that such a project cross existed (IMO). It was not a souvenir.

WR Kirill

WR Kirill

a souvenir ...at best .

I also suspect this catalog to be manipulated somehow ( look at the attachment rings) ,,,looks like someone overlapped on the right picture .

fortunately

until a period picture is found with a veteran wearing these crosses ..these crosses are unidentified as period .

remember what I said earlier ,,,,all legitimate crosses can be found on period pictures with vets wearing them .
that is what we should be concentrating on



regards kay

[kid74]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=432319

Here the cross is more like the picture in the catalog. And found a lot of crosses. But I never met the crosses are absolutely identical to the picture in the catalog. Where is the truth?

WR Kirill

[kid74]

remember what I said earlier ,,,,all legitimate crosses can be found on period pictures with vets wearing them .
that is what we should be concentrating on

I'm sure you have no photos of the awards that belonged to my great grandfather (it's some joke)



WR Kirill

[Montgomery Burns]

How many drawings of awards is absolutely identical to the real products?

WR Kirill

I had few ,,,about 1914 they do not resemble anything known..

standing against ,,,

every other medal in period catalog's seem to be an exact identical drawing or picture of the real thing

its always the same,,got me thinking fore a long time now ..


regards kay

[Montgomery Burns]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=432319

Here the cross is more like the picture in the catalog. And found a lot of crosses. But I never met the crosses are absolutely identical to the picture in the catalog. Where is the truth?

WR Kirill

how many 1870 advertisement and catalogs you seen,,?

WW1 and WW2 examples are not the same as 1870 /1890 /1900 catalog's

(I had a 1895 / 1900 advertisement ,,even in collar ,,they where exact copy's of the real deal .)

regards k

[kid74]

how many 1870 advertisement and catalogs you seen,,?

WW1 and WW2 examples are not the same as 1870 /1890 /1900 catalog's

(I had a 1895 / 1900 advertisement ,,even in collar ,,they where exact copy's of the real deal .)

regards k

If you want to find the truth - you find it, if you want to find contradictions - you find them. Decide for yourself what you need.

Yours faithfully. Kirill

[kid74]

In my opinion, the cross is shown in the topic made by St&L (IMO).

WR Kirill

[Montgomery Burns]

only pro's and contras










.k

[kid74]

[QUOTE=Montgomery Burns;6955997]only pro's and contras


at least, food for thought ....

WR Kirill

[Miro O]

He seems to have taken most of his information from this forum. I posted that image here years ago. Is he a member here? Love to get that book.

Sorry to chime in, but all S&L catalogs had been posted to Russian forum between January 2009 and October 2010. This particular, from 1905, was posted in January 2010 by another member than Konstantin.

The painting of the cross in S&L catalog is as bad, as painting of 1914 cross in their 1939 catalog. But it is that cross. If because of nothing, then only
because of the fact, that absolutely identical cross to one depicted in the catalog, never appeared.

[streptile]

If you have this information, why you wrote earlier that this product is duplicate?

Sorry Kirill, but I don't understand your question.

[kid74]

Sorry Kirill, but I don't understand your question.

You showed the directory (St&L catalogue) with identical cross. Why you write that the cross is only a copy (duplicate)?

WR Kirill

[streptile]

Thanks Kirill.

You showed the directory (St&L catalogue) with identical cross. Why you write that the cross is only a copy (duplicate)?

WR Kirill

Because I believe that this type of cross was never awarded (that they were inexpensive copies) and that the S&L catalogue shows items for sale.

Do you believe this is an awarded type?

[kid74]

Thanks Kirill.



Because I believe that this type of cross was never awarded (that they were inexpensive copies) and that the S&L catalogue shows items for sale.

Do you believe this is an awarded type?

In this case, you are sure to cross from AWES awarded?

WR Kirill