EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer?

[Green]

I recently bought this non magnetic EK II! I believe this is a Deumer cross, a replacement cross from ww II, but I am not very sure?

Weight : 15,9 gram
Ring size : 15,3 mm
Size cross 43,3 x 43,2

The core rattles in the frame, when you shake it!


I can not find much about this type off cross, because the most I see and read about, have a magnetic core! I could find one thread here on this forum, but with no attachments anymore and from years ago!

May be someone can tell me a little bit more about this type off cross?

EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer 2.jpg

EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer 1.jpg

With regards,

Green

[Montgomery Burns]

your right a Deumer cross . around ( 1920/1930/40 ) not 100% sure ..

pressed core ,,found with magnetic core , non magnetic core ,,,neusilber frame , tompak frame , brass frames , copper frames ,silver plated ,frosted ,non frosted and so on ..

often very light ,,quality is always nice ..


like the looks of this one .



regards kay

[Green]

your right a Deumer cross . around ( 1920/1930/40 ) not 100% sure ..

pressed core ,,found with magnetic core , non magnetic core ,,,neusilber frame , tompak frame , brass frames , copper frames ,silver plated ,frosted ,non frosted and so on ..

often very light ,,quality is always nice ..


like the looks of this one .



regards kay

Thank you Kay,

Oké, that declares the weight! It is lighter than a Schinkel non magnetic from the same year and maker ( 18,1 gram)!

You use the term 'often´, but I can not find much about this non magnetic variant of the EK II, also not in the book of Frank Wernitz ......just that makes it interesting for me!

I bought the cross because it is a little peace in the whole EK history and it is the example/ Parts narrator of the Schinkel variant.


deumer1914ek2.jpg
The 1914 EK 2 as offered in an official Deumer's medal catalog (november 1939)

With regards,

Green

[morel5000]

Here is the non mag ek1 version:

[Green]

Here is the non mag ek1 version:

Nice patina.......very, very worn cross. Most of the time, the core is rusting away, here it is it the frame. But still a beautiful time document (relic).

I have seen more EK I WWI with a non magnetic core, more than EK II. Recently I bought a Deumer EKI WWI with a non magnetic core (copper) myself!

I like the copper cores, because they have a beautiful patina when they are worn on the high places ( crown and W).

I think that mine Deumer EK II has a zink core, because off the weight!

With regards,
Green