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    EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer?

    I recently bought this non magnetic EK II! I believe this is a Deumer cross, a replacement cross from ww II, but I am not very sure?

    Weight : 15,9 gram
    Ring size : 15,3 mm
    Size cross 43,3 x 43,2

    The core rattles in the frame, when you shake it!


    I can not find much about this type off cross, because the most I see and read about, have a magnetic core! I could find one thread here on this forum, but with no attachments anymore and from years ago!

    May be someone can tell me a little bit more about this type off cross?

    EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer 2.jpg

    EK II WWI non magnetic Deumer 1.jpg

    With regards,

    Green

    #2
    your right a Deumer cross . around ( 1920/1930/40 ) not 100% sure ..

    pressed core ,,found with magnetic core , non magnetic core ,,,neusilber frame , tompak frame , brass frames , copper frames ,silver plated ,frosted ,non frosted and so on ..

    often very light ,,quality is always nice ..


    like the looks of this one .



    regards kay
    Last edited by Montgomery Burns; 12-19-2014, 06:03 PM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Montgomery Burns View Post
      your right a Deumer cross . around ( 1920/1930/40 ) not 100% sure ..

      pressed core ,,found with magnetic core , non magnetic core ,,,neusilber frame , tompak frame , brass frames , copper frames ,silver plated ,frosted ,non frosted and so on ..

      often very light ,,quality is always nice ..


      like the looks of this one .



      regards kay
      Thank you Kay,

      Oké, that declares the weight! It is lighter than a Schinkel non magnetic from the same year and maker ( 18,1 gram)!

      You use the term 'often´, but I can not find much about this non magnetic variant of the EK II, also not in the book of Frank Wernitz ......just that makes it interesting for me!

      I bought the cross because it is a little peace in the whole EK history and it is the example/ Parts narrator of the Schinkel variant.


      deumer1914ek2.jpg
      The 1914 EK 2 as offered in an official Deumer's medal catalog (november 1939)

      With regards,

      Green

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        #4
        Here is the non mag ek1 version:
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          #5
          Originally posted by morel5000 View Post
          Here is the non mag ek1 version:
          Nice patina.......very, very worn cross. Most of the time, the core is rusting away, here it is it the frame. But still a beautiful time document (relic).

          I have seen more EK I WWI with a non magnetic core, more than EK II. Recently I bought a Deumer EKI WWI with a non magnetic core (copper) myself!

          I like the copper cores, because they have a beautiful patina when they are worn on the high places ( crown and W).

          I think that mine Deumer EK II has a zink core, because off the weight!

          With regards,
          Green

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