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    #16
    Originally posted by Don D. View Post
    Observations and questions:
    a 44mm cross is not necessarily a TR period cross.
    Damn, I thought it meant just that. Thanks for the info, now I know better.

    /peter

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      #17
      Very nice bar Trev I know Wiesbaden well

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        #18
        Originally posted by streptile View Post
        Heh heh, thanks Don, and thanks everyone for the nice comments.



        Hi Max,

        Nice cross

        In my opinion the "frosting" was used since the turn of the century (c. 1900) on some makers' crosses (e.g. AWS, Godet). Also, the "Third Reich era" spans from 1933 to 1945 (I didn't say WWII era) so I have no problems accepting a 42mm Godet from the Third Reich era as 44mm crosses were not introduced until 1939 (also, 42mm 1914 crosses were made after 1939).

        It isn't so much the frosting that leads me to believe this cross is TR-era, but the silvering process, the paint, the frame material, and of course the cross's neighbor down the bar. I haven't looked for a mark but I assume it has a "G" on the ring.

        A Happy New Year to all.
        Originally posted by Don D. View Post
        Observations and questions:

        Imperial cross sizes vary from 42-44mm depending upon maker so a 44mm cross is not necessarily a TR period cross. I don't think Hitler's order to make the crosses larger applied to the Imperial crosses specifically but more to the ones he instituted for the 1939 conflict. He wanted "his" crosses to be bigger. The fact we find TR era ones that big probably has more to do with economy of manufactuer. Why have 2 different sets of dies for what is basically the same award manufacturing-wise.
        Both have right,
        I'm sorry bcause on my mind TR is always = 1939 - 1945 ( and is wrong i know but is so much strong than me)
        Is real also the 44 x 44 mm EKII WWI Iron Cross, they are called if I remember good "wide frame".

        I apologize for mistake.

        Thanks

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          #19
          Argh, you're rubbing salt into the wound... I really should have kept that bar... but at least it's in good hands.

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            #20
            Originally posted by saschaw View Post
            Argh, you're rubbing salt into the wound... I really should have kept that bar... but at least it's in good hands.
            Find me a good RAO3X and you can have it back as a bonus
            Best regards,
            Streptile

            Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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              #21
              Trevor,

              That is hot! Lets grab coffee soon...

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                #22
                ah you got it.

                i have one of vietor, too.

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                  #23
                  A beautiful museum quality bar!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nick Carraway View Post
                    Trevor,
                    That is hot! Lets grab coffee soon...
                    Love to, Nick. Check your email.

                    Originally posted by römischIX View Post
                    ah you got it.
                    i have one of vietor, too.
                    Don't just talk about it... show it
                    Last edited by streptile; 01-05-2013, 02:40 PM.
                    Best regards,
                    Streptile

                    Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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