Mecklenburg Strelitz 1st and 2nd class

[gen_key]

Hi

these 2 uncommon pieces also came to me.
IMO both in silvered bronce. I hope everything
is ok with these nice crosses.
The first class is for me a little highlight.
Thanks for comments and opinions.

regards kai

[gen_key]

more fotos from the backside

[gen_key]

better fotos

[gen_key]

better fotos

regards kai

[Don D.]

Both nice crosses imo.

[Steve Campbell]

Nice. I have a 2nd class but wasn't aware of a first class pinback. Would love to add one to my collection.

[streptile]

Very nice Kai. Are these Godet made?

[gen_key]

Hi

these both are imo not made by godet.
A collector who knows good the Mecklenburg awards
told me the 1st cl. could be made by meybauer.
Godet is higher quality. But I'm happy about
my catch.

regards kai

[jaba-the-hunt]

Vary nice crosses, especially the first class. Why Meybauer?
I thought this are Zimmermann piece like the Schweriner crosses.

Regards

Alex

[gen_key]

Vary nice crosses, especially the first class. Why Meybauer?
I thought this are Zimmermann piece like the Schweriner crosses.

Regards

Alex

Yes I thought aswell, but I were showing it to
Jörg Kalies in Hamburg and he believes the backside
pin could be a Meybauer. He actualy don't agreed
to Zimmerman when I asked for this maker.
I think he knows better

regards kai

[pzrwest]

What happened to the first 5 pics just broken pics

[Brian L.]

The top of the pin seems too narrow, and its overall shape doesn't reflect a typical Meybauer pin. Also, the 'V' notch at the top is a trademark design of Zimmermann. So, I would tend to agree with others that it's a Zimmermann.

Either way, it's a nice and fairly scarce piece.

[Mike Kenny]

Aboslutely, definitely, 1000% NOT Meybauer. The pin is totally incorrect - Meybauer never used a notched pin from what I've seen - and the obverse details are incorrect for Meybauer. See my Meybauer marked example.

I like the example posted, probably a wartime example imo. I aso agree that it is likely by the same maker as some of the Meck-Schwerin wartime 1st Class examples.

Regards
Mike

[gen_key]

Hi Gents,

what a very nice duscussion . I now know that
you are right. This type belongs to the zimmermann
crosses.

Schwerin 1 class, 100% classic zimmermann (has been mine until last month)

[gen_key]

the other variation without the metal disk above at the pin