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    Hollow pilot badge

    Hello Guys,

    can you please give me your opinion on this piece?
    Thanks in advance.



    #2
    Anyone?

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      #3
      I believe it's good. The pin is a rather crude later addition and if possible, should be removed. This was originally a sew-on badge as indicated by the 8 holes - not that common a type.
      Last edited by Brian L.; 11-24-2012, 10:49 AM.

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        #4
        Also, I think maybe post WWI.
        Last edited by Brian L.; 11-24-2012, 10:49 AM.

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          #5
          If it's steel it's probably later wartime and the hardware looks period (wartime to 20s) to me - there is no way I would be destroying history by removing it (aside from the mess it would leave).

          Regards
          Mike
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            #6
            Originally posted by Mike Kenny View Post
            If it's steel it's probably later wartime and the hardware looks period (wartime to 20s) to me - there is no way I would be destroying history by removing it (aside from the mess it would leave).

            Regards
            Mike
            Yes, you're right. It was a stupid suggestion on my part. The pin, as ugly as it is is part of the history and likely was done for a little extra security in attaching it to the uniform.

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              #7
              Thanks for your input. The badge is on its way to me.

              Kind regards,
              Rik

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                #8
                And I will never remove the pin of course.

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                  #9
                  Juncker war time issue badge in tombak. Originally sew on and converted to pin back. Leave the pin on !!!! Part of the history. Ferg

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ferg 1 View Post
                    Juncker war time issue badge in tombak. Originally sew on and converted to pin back. Leave the pin on !!!! Part of the history. Ferg
                    Thanks Ferg for identifying the maker.
                    I can't seem to find a lot of these sew on badges on the forum. Are these sew on badges more rare than the normal pin back pilot badges?

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                      #11
                      What is the reasoning that there was a standard sew-on type? Is that documented somewhere? Sales catalogue? Anywhere?

                      Doesn't make sense to me. Sounds more reasonable that it is an unfinished piece that someone first drilled holes in and then later decided to give it an attachment pin.

                      Rich
                      Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
                      Decorations of Germany

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                        #12
                        Sew on examples are alot less seen than their pin back brothers. For whatever reason they were altered this way, be it in the factory or later they appear to be legit war time pieces. They are seen in photos from time to time, Immelmann amongst others wears a sew on in his sanke card picture. They normally have no evidence of a standard pin or catch having being attached on at outset so we must take it that they were created like that from birth ! Personnel preverence I guess. Ferg

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                          #13
                          Do not know if this is going to help but does anybody have another sew-on badge so we can compare the hole pattern?

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                            #14
                            Baldes's new book for pilot badges has good pictures of several ones.

                            It's worth it's price for pilot badge collector, it's anyway a small investment compared to original badge prices (especially if it helps to avoid fake one)

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                              #15
                              I have three or four examples of sew on badges,I will post them when I get a moment.Ferg

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