S&L Showroom circa 1940/1?

[Robin Lumsden]

How that can be in 1940 is beyond me.

It could be a 1940 photo in a 1941 publication.

[Robin Lumsden]

There are a lot of questions posed here, but very few answers.

That is understandable, as we can only speculate on who did (or didn't) make what.

Personally, however, I think it is highly unlikely that S&L would openly display (and therefore 'advertise') items made by firms who they were competing with.

These photos don't just show 'a selection of awards then available'.

They are an 'advert' for S&L, at a time when Germany was riding on the crest of a wave. It was big business for S&L.

[Dietrich Maerz]

It could be a 1940 photo in a 1941 publication.

I was not talking about a photo. I was talking about the LDO numbers.

[J C Gray]

Personally, however, I think it is highly unlikely that S&L would openly display (and therefore 'advertise') items made by firms who they were competing with.

That would mean that we now have Four alleged manufacturers of the SS-Dienstauszeichnung. I personally am only aware of Two different types of each of the four grades and could not say for certain who actually made any of them.

[Dietrich Maerz]

The SS-Dienstauszeichnungen are in the 1941 catalog.

[Don D.]

Assuming S&L was fully licensed to both manufacture and sell all items would it really make sense for them to produce low density items vice acquiring a few from one of the known manufacturers? How would one know that the LCTB was not made by S&L? They are not marked.

[J C Gray]

The SS-Dienstauszeichnungen are in the 1941 catalog.

Very interesting, I didn't know that. Are all four grades in it? There was a photo posted on the forum some years ago of them in the Schickle catalogue also, but it has been removed.

[Dietrich Maerz]

Yes, all four grades.

[Robin Lumsden]

I was not talking about a photo. I was talking about the LDO numbers.

Yes..............I know.

[Robin Lumsden]

I personally am only aware of Two different types of each of the four grades and could not say for certain who actually made any of them.

That's exactly my point.

Perhaps S&L was the maker of one of the variants currently attributed to Deschler or P&L.

[Robin Lumsden]

Assuming S&L was fully licensed to..... manufacture............would it really make sense for them to produce low density items.............

Yes, I think so................otherwise why would they WANT to be fully licensed to manufacture?

We just don't know.

[Robin Lumsden]

The SS-Dienstauszeichnungen are in the 1941 catalog.

Is that the S&L catalogue? If so, QED IMHO.

[Don D.]

That's exactly my point.

Perhaps S&L was the maker of one of the variants currently attributed to Deschler or P&L.

Or perhaps they got the ones they sold from Deschler or P&L.

[Don D.]

Is that the S&L catalogue? If so, QED IMHO.

Is it a sales catalog or a this is what we make catalog?

[Robin Lumsden]

Or perhaps they got the ones they sold from Deschler or P&L.

Not if they are in the 1941 S&L catalogue, IMHO.

Who first published all this Deschler and P&L stuff anyway?