EK1 on estand

[Don D.]

Anyone ever seen such an attaching setup?

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=407766

[VtwinVince]

Wow, that is an unusual setup, and the core looks good.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Is there ANY logical reason to have such a set up? Imagine how it would look on a tunic?

Sends up a red flag for me IMHO.

Best
Chris

[gregM]

I don't see any evidence of a pin and catch being removed. The patina
on the back looks OK. It may be a very old modification.

That being said, I have never seen one like it in person OR in pictures.
My guess is that this is a frankenstien piece. Made up to bring a premium
from collectors.

[Chris Boonzaier]

Hi,

with silver a good jeweller can remove fittings and solder then smooth, shine, polish and putz till you can not see that anything was ever there...

I have seem a couple of pieces with quality loops in the corners, but on the BACK, not visible from the front. They were also more solid and better done.

Personally, i still dont see what advantage there is to sewing a medal to a jacket....

Best
Chris

[Jimmy]

As Usual

You guys see something you've never seen before and to you its automatically a fake.
I'll bet you can't prove your statements.
Its real suck it up and learn for a change.
I would show you a good COA but you'd just scoff at that as well.
Don, send this one over to GMIC and see what they say.
Gregg I'm surprised at your comments.
Chris I've got one on the estand with the loops on the rear.
Vince you are right. !

[gregM]

You are right, "I can not prove my statments" I have never seen a cross like this before. Vince is also right "the core looks good" and I will
repeat "it may be an old modification" maybe even a period done job--
or maybe not. I can not say for sure, all I have is a gut feeling.

[morel5000]

You guys see something you've never seen before and to you its automatically a fake.
I'll bet you can't prove your statements.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=407246

If I question this one you would probably answer the same.

Isn't it the seller courtesy that if an item is questioned he or she at least provides better pictures of the item?

Is there patina at the back or is it cleaned?

I would show you a good COA but you'd just scoff at that as well.

If you have one then show it ..

If every seller who's item is discussed starts kicking around and yelling things then the forum doesn't work. Your item is questioned, provide proof that it is genuine or at least help the discussion!

Best regards,
Michel

[Montgomery Burns]

Hi,

with silver a good jeweller can remove fittings and solder then smooth, shine, polish and putz till you can not see that anything was ever there...

I have seem a couple of pieces with quality loops in the corners, but on the BACK, not visible from the front. They were also more solid and better done.

Personally, I still don't see what advantage there is to sewing a medal to a jacket....

Best
Chris

silver ,,,and a jeweller,,, and removing them that perfect,,, and attach the loops that nice ,,,wood be some cost .
more then ,,(on a normal market),,, this cross wood be worth .
(the price is a little to bold)

especially as this cross wood be under suspicion if not under attack everywhere it pups up .

I vote fore original ek
special variation fore non uniform usage

regards kay

[Steve Campbell]

A lot of different items and attachement systems came out of this era. It's certainly different, but who knows? Could be a not often seen item.

[Don D.]

As stated- the core looks good. The attaching method is strange. I think it would not be for wear on a uniform but perhaps for mounting on an item.

[VtwinVince]

I think Kay and Don are on the right track, a jeweler would charge a small fortune to modify a stock EK in this way. The cross certainly looks period to me.

[Jimmy]

If every seller who's item is discussed starts kicking around and yelling things then the forum doesn't work. Your item is questioned, provide proof that it is genuine or at least help the discussion!

Michael I've been selling my collection on here for the last few years and have many things turn out to be fake. I always in the past have listened and agreed to all the evaluations. Just a few weeks ago I showed a 15 piece Medal Bar that was proven to be a put together. I listened and learned and did not question the outcome. I must have posted 100 items for opinions in the past and did not question the results.
But none were passed on simply because they have never seen one like it, that is very narrow minded and should be challenged.

(the price is a little to bold)

Kay you are very right , the price on all 6 or 7 EK1 I have posted on the eStand were a bit bold. I was just testing the water, so to speak. Any serious offers would be entertained. I have another dozen or so to sell as well.

"it may be an old modification"

Greg, If you had it in hand you'd see it has Not been modified but made that way.

And Don, Vince & Steve thanks for your positive remarks.

Now if any one knows a compent silversmith. I'd like to have this repaired. I have the missing piece.

With Kind Regards to all,

[Montgomery Burns]

Hy Jimmy ...

there's one thing we all did wrong ,,,

no one was asking fore picture's off the soldering ,,,,
off the cross itself and the loops

and you can kick around as much you wood like

just keep on being polite ,,,even do it is hard sometimes

regards kay

[VtwinVince]

Jimmy, I have an excellent jeweler who does all my repairs expertly, and for a very modest price. Right now he's restoring a Prussian Crown Order for me