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    Ek2 to Ek1 field conversion

    Up for discussion is a Ek2 converted into a Ek1.
    This was sometimes done so the cross could be worn untill the
    "offical " cross was awarded.
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    #2
    The backside shows a crudely soldered period style pin. The small ring
    was removed and the frame was nicely repaired. (barely visible under
    the build up of dirt and tarnish)
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      #3
      small ring
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        #4
        I'm not sure that any real criteria exist by which to judge the authenticity of these, but I like the way this one looks, Greg. I think I've seen that type of closure on period safety pins before, and the sloppiness of the conversion sure speaks well for it being "field converted," as you wrote.

        ~Trevor
        Best regards,
        Streptile

        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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          #5
          I will agree, these are kind of a gray area but everything looks right
          on this one. Period style pin, dirt, gunk, patina. It just feels right.

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            #6
            Another very sloppy field conversion i have in my collection
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                #8
                Originally posted by gregM View Post
                It just feels right.
                I can't believe I actually said that.
                I have seen this line used by so many rookies trying to convince someone that a piece is good.
                Last edited by gregM; 06-04-2009, 05:31 PM.

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                  #9
                  Is that soldered or glued??
                  Do I see the remains of a previous pin attachment on the upper 3 o'clock arm on the reverse?
                  The pin itself reminds me of 40s/50s Soviet pins.
                  Thanks,
                  Eric Gaumann

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                    #10
                    That certainly looks period. My example has a more elaborate pin and retainer system, and is very nicely finished.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Eric Gaumann View Post
                      Is that soldered or glued??
                      Do I see the remains of a previous pin attachment on the upper 3 o'clock arm on the reverse?
                      The pin itself reminds me of 40s/50s Soviet pins.
                      It is soldered and the pin is a common German style of the day.
                      I have a ek2 single medal bar with the same pin and I also have
                      a period catalog showing this pin being offered on their ribbon bars.
                      As for whats in the solder ? No clue. If this is a pin added over an
                      eariler conversion attempt, That might explain some of the crudeness
                      of the soldering.

                      Here is a scan.
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by gregM; 06-04-2009, 06:53 PM.

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                        #12
                        Neat scan, Greg. A period catalogue offering ribbon bars?
                        Best regards,
                        Streptile

                        Looking for ROUND BUTTON 1939 EK1 Spange cases (LDO or PKZ)

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                          #13
                          It's really no different than a 1939 EKII converted with a twist of the ring and a loop and you have an RK. You know it happened but you can't be sure it happened to the one in hand. It would be nice to be true so it is what it is. It is an example of one that may or not be period converted or one that looks exactly like one that was converted. No problems with it.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by streptile View Post
                            Neat scan, Greg. A period catalogue offering ribbon bars?
                            I've got some old catalogs from Godet,S-L, Deumer, Kust. They
                            come in handy ever now and again.

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                              #15
                              However, many of the EK to RK conversions try and bring a big dollar with no proof. This one Greg shows is more believable. Even if it is a Russian pin, 40s era puts it in the WW2 period, and the German army was in Russia, so....

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