Hello board members,
I am a new member and this is my first thread. Yesterday I posted a thread on
the GMIC forums in 1939 EKs asking for help identifying a cross I've had in my
collection for years. To my great surprise it turned out to be a well-known fake,
despite being very convincing. WAF's own Ben Bijker confirmed it.
I am now a bit chastened, and would like to put an EK question to the
Imperial enthusiasts among you.
I have the chance to buy this 1870 EK1 Prinzen at a decent price:
Here's what I know about it: Silver rims, blackened iron center,
36mm x 36mm, thin pin setup, supposedly dates from Jubilee c.1895.
Now, I was initially a bit skeptical, but after doing some research I'm
a bit more confident. I'd like to show my research and have your opinions.
Below is this cross for sale (Right) next to a known original (Left)
(p.116 in S.T.Previtera's "The Iron Time" 1st Edition):
(I know that there are some fakes in "The Iron Time," but the cross above is attributed.)
Just by eye I think it compares very favorably. The known original is also
36mm sq. and has a thin pin on the reverse. It is also known to date from
the jubilee period, c. 1895.
I superimposed the cross for sale at 50% opacity on top of the known original
to see if the core details align. Here is the two crosses offset to show opacity:
And here they are aligned:
Now, the core details align perfectly. The date, which is quite distinctive,
is identical. The W and crown are identical also.
I also counted the beads on two arms, and the bead count is identical.
My concerns are, simply: I have not been able to see better quality
photos, or photos of the reverse. Also, the small flaw in the beading
on the lower right (facing) of the 6-o'clock arm.
However, given the amount of evidence pointing to it's similarity to a
known original, I am inclined to go for it. Can anyone offer me any advice?
Thanking you in advance,
Trevor
PS: I am very happy to have disovered a community as interested in this
subject as I am. I've been at this for about 12 years and have a few nice
little EKs in my collection that I am looking forward to sharing with you here.
Mostly I am looking forward to learning a lot from you.
I am a new member and this is my first thread. Yesterday I posted a thread on
the GMIC forums in 1939 EKs asking for help identifying a cross I've had in my
collection for years. To my great surprise it turned out to be a well-known fake,
despite being very convincing. WAF's own Ben Bijker confirmed it.
I am now a bit chastened, and would like to put an EK question to the
Imperial enthusiasts among you.
I have the chance to buy this 1870 EK1 Prinzen at a decent price:
Here's what I know about it: Silver rims, blackened iron center,
36mm x 36mm, thin pin setup, supposedly dates from Jubilee c.1895.
Now, I was initially a bit skeptical, but after doing some research I'm
a bit more confident. I'd like to show my research and have your opinions.
Below is this cross for sale (Right) next to a known original (Left)
(p.116 in S.T.Previtera's "The Iron Time" 1st Edition):
(I know that there are some fakes in "The Iron Time," but the cross above is attributed.)
Just by eye I think it compares very favorably. The known original is also
36mm sq. and has a thin pin on the reverse. It is also known to date from
the jubilee period, c. 1895.
I superimposed the cross for sale at 50% opacity on top of the known original
to see if the core details align. Here is the two crosses offset to show opacity:
And here they are aligned:
Now, the core details align perfectly. The date, which is quite distinctive,
is identical. The W and crown are identical also.
I also counted the beads on two arms, and the bead count is identical.
My concerns are, simply: I have not been able to see better quality
photos, or photos of the reverse. Also, the small flaw in the beading
on the lower right (facing) of the 6-o'clock arm.
However, given the amount of evidence pointing to it's similarity to a
known original, I am inclined to go for it. Can anyone offer me any advice?
Thanking you in advance,
Trevor
PS: I am very happy to have disovered a community as interested in this
subject as I am. I've been at this for about 12 years and have a few nice
little EKs in my collection that I am looking forward to sharing with you here.
Mostly I am looking forward to learning a lot from you.
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